On shunning

paranoia agent

Here is something interesting that pertains to the action of shunning. The book called Extreme was written by psychologists.

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stuckinarut2

And that is exactly why the practice is used by the org! To diminish the person and make them see that they are "guilty".

Yet, they say it is "a loving act to help the person see the need to return"????

Huh?

Why would someone crave to return to a group that treated them so badly?

It highlights the downtrodden nature of that person sadly.....

Oubliette

Excellent analysis. It's all about control.

Oubliette

Is this the book?

Review: In ‘Extreme,’ by Emma Barrett and Paul Martin, Psychologists Explore Those Who Test Limits

It would have been helpful if you'd provided a citation and/or reference. Thanks.

steve2

Shunning has a "fine" pedigree: It can be found within the pages of Bible. It is in"good" common with other Biblical practices such as genocide and other acts of Jehovian bloodlust and rage.

Dr. Marlene Winnell writes in article 3 on Religious Trauma Syndrome that A religious counselor will redirect a client back to the religion, typically with biblical guidelines to repent and become more devout. The client suffering with RTS is then likely to try harder to meet the impossible demands of the religion, much like returning to a situation of domestic violence. They will do this because of the authoritarian nature of such counseling, but fail again and feel hopeless or evil or crazy. No one concludes that it is the religion itself, which is at fault. (And religious counselors often have very little training in psychology while getting exempted from standard licensing requirements.) http://www.babcp.com/Review/RTS-Trauma-from-Leaving-Religion.aspx

GoneAwol

" A person who is shunned while remaining physically part of the group may find it more emotionally painful than someone who has been banished".

Elder to disfellowshipped person: " You sit there at the back while the rest of us chat and greet each other, hug each other, laugh and make plans for the weekend. And you can think about how serious that little tiny slip - up was. And watch us. And feel ashamed about being you! And when a year, maybe 2, goes by, we might let you be part of our little gang again. Only if you grovel and lick our ego's. "

This cult needs destroying!!

Oubliette

possum: religious counselors often have very little training in psychology while getting exempted from standard licensing requirements.

In JW-land it's not "often," it's virtually 100% of the elders that lack proper training to give the "counseling" that they give.

JW elders, even if well-intentioned, usually make a bad situation worse.

Let's review: It's a cult!

possum

Oubliette
JW elders, even if well-intentioned, usually make a bad situation worse.

Don't ascribe to evil what can be attributed to well-intentioned stupidity.” The Shadow Dragons by James A. Owen

KiddingMe

Interesting...thx for sharing the excerpt.

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