JW attacked by Ram sues owner

by IronGland 16 Replies latest jw friends

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  calamityjane

  Thanks for the help Badboy.
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  badboy

  ANY TIME
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  Mary

  So this Witness is suing his own congregation cause they didn't "warn" him of the "dangers" of rural territory? Gimme a break......ooooooohh, I'll be HE'S not in good standing at the Hall any more!! LOL!!!!
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  Reborn2002

  BOTTOM LINE:

  Despite a gate marked 'private - keep out', Mr Hawthorn entered a farm only to be confronted by a four-year-old ram.

  Hello people, he ignored a posted sign stating it was private property and to keep out. He also entered a farm, should this Dub moron not have expected to encounter farm animals on a farm?

  Also in the article:

  In their defence, the Goldfinches said the Hawthorns entered their property "uninvited, unwanted and without notice".

  Trespassing. The Dub got everything he deserved, and then had the nerve to sue the homeowner whose property he was unlawfully trespassing upon!

  Dubs are pathetic human beings.
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  Ron G

  This story is still relative today and should not be forgotten, The Hawthorns should be made to pay every cent back to the owners with interest.

  They should have been covered by the Jehovah's Witness workcover insurance as all Volunteer works are legally meant to be.

  We all know it is a requirement for a practicing Jehovah Witness to undertake door knocking.
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  smiddy3

  They should have been covered by the Jehovah's Witness workcover insurance as all Volunteer works are legally meant to be.

  Sorry for my ignorance but can you clarify that ? If JW`s are unpaid voluntary participants in a religion of their own accord how can they be under Workcover Insurance for Volunteer work when it is not work ?

  Maybe the problem is with the definition of the word "work"
  
  
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  blondie

  I remember this; it was during a time when the WTS opinion of trespassing and how non-jws could legally keep them off their property was evolving. Not too long after that the WTS changed their policy of having jws assert their right to preach when people really did not want them on their property. The WTS basically told the jws who did try to assert that so-called right were on their own legally, the WTS would not help them.

  Here is a quote from a BOE letter from 2014, unfortunately the link no longer works. If anyone has the link, could you post it? Original post for this reference:

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4644952847941632/no-soliciting-signage-jw-policy?page=2
  

  3 years ago

  2014-11-06-E-Ca_BOE--Procedures_when_legal_issues_are_involved PDF

  WITNESSING DIFFICULTIES
  

  29. Courtesy telephone notifications before working in the door-to-door ministry:
  Prior to engaging in the public ministry, publishers (1) should not obtain a permit or register with police or municipal officials; (2) should not physically go to any police station or government office; and (3) should not provide the police or municipal officials, whether in person, by fax, or by mail, any papers, forms, lists, or other documents. Of course, if your congregation has received previous direction from the Legal Department regarding courtesy telephone notifications, you should continue to abide by that direction.
  

  30. In the event that a publisher is stopped by the police while engaged in the door-to-door ministry and is directed to obtain a permit, to provide prior notification in person or by telephone to police or any other municipal official, or to respond to demands for any other information, the publisher should not get involved in a discussion of his legal rights in an attempt to resolve the matter. Rather, he should promptly and politely leave the territory if directed to do so. (Rom. 12:18) The publisher should then inform the body of elders of any such incident. Thereafter, please immediately contact the Legal Department for further direction rather than trying to resolve the matter on your own.
  
  

  31. “No Trespassing” signs at individual dwellings: It may be that when a “No Trespassing” sign is posted, the intent of the sign is to prevent people from wandering about on the homeowner’s property. However, he may not have an objection to someone coming straight to his door. Nevertheless, as a general rule, householders have a right to privacy and the right to prohibit anyone, including publishers, from entering their property by posting a “No Trespassing” sign. Publishers need to be aware of the possible consequences of ignoring a “No Trespassing” sign. If publishers call at a home or enter the grounds around a home where a “No Trespassing” sign is posted, they may be subject to prosecution under provincial or territorial trespass to property legislation and receive a monetary fine. To be prosecuted for such conduct is a real possibility and a serious matter. In addition, we are living in litigious times. Publishers ignoring a posted directive to stay away may also face civil liability if sued by an irate householder. (Matt. 10:16) Publishers should keep in mind that if they decide not to go to a particular door because of a posted “No Trespassing” sign, other means of contacting the homeowner are available, such as telephone witnessing and letter writing.—km 1/10 pp. 4-6; km 5/02 p. 7.
  
  

  32. “No Trespassing” signs in communities and apartment complexes: It is important to note that a “No Trespassing” sign posted on a home may be viewed differently from a “No Trespassing” sign placed on a public street or at the entrance to a community or apartment complex. With that in mind, we have no legal objection to publishers preaching in subdivisions and apartment complexes in which they have not experienced difficulties with the authorities or the management, even if there is a sign posted at the entrance.
  
  

  33. If you experience difficulties with the management of any subdivision or apartment complex, immediately comply with any demands to leave the territory and then write to the Legal Department providing the name and address of the subdivision or apartment complex, the name of the on-site manager (if applicable), a description of the difficulty, and the date(s) of the incident(s). On the other hand, if a resident of a subdivision or apartment complex, rather than the management, applies a posted sign to our ministry or insists that we cannot preach in the complex, you may wish to mark the individual as a do-not-call and return to preach at another time.
  

  34. “No Soliciting,” “No Peddling,” or “No Canvassing” signs: “No Trespassing” signs are different from signs such as “No Soliciting,” “No Peddling,” or “No Canvassing.” If a municipality endeavors to enforce the application of such signs to our preaching activity, please contact the Legal Department. However, if a householder at any time informs a publisher that such a sign posted on his property applies to our ministry, the publisher should assure the householder that his wishes will be honored.
  

  35. “Do-not-calls”: If a householder insists that no further visits be made by Jehovah’s Witnesses, a dated note should be placed in the territory envelope so that publishers working the territory in the future do not call at that address. Such direction would apply whether or not the householder has posted a sign indicating his wishes. Under the direction of the service overseer, elders should be assigned to visit these homes every two years. It could be explained that we are calling to inquire if the same householder still lives there. If there is a reasonable response, future calls can be made in the usual way. If the householder continues to insist that no further visits be made by Jehovah’s Witnesses, no further visits should be made until two years pass. The local body of elders can decide if the circumstances in a particular case make it advisable to handle things differently.
  

  36. Elders bear a heavy responsibility in ministering to the needs of the Christian congregation while observing confidentiality and complying with Caesar’s laws. (Rom. 13:1-4) We trust that the information in this letter will help you carry out this responsibility. Please be assured of our love and prayers, and may Jehovah continue to bless you as you shepherd his flock.—1 Pet. 5:1-3.