by The Searcher 12 Replies latest social current
The U.K. is having a national referendum In 2017, to decide whether to remain in the European Union or to abandon it.
In view of the total impotence and absence of agreement of EU governments to handle mass migration to mainland Europe, my bet would be for a landslide vote to leave the E.U. - if the referendum was held within the next 6-9 months.
Will things get better before 2017?
How do you think the voting should be decided?
a) By region.
b) By population.
If it's by population London voters and the surrounding areas will win because it's in their interests, to remain in the E.U.( These areas contain the majority of votes) But if votes are decided by region it would be a different outcome. ( Because these voters cover a lager geographical area, but contain fewer votes)
So much for a NATIONAL VOTE.
The Rebel.
If given the chance to vote on an EU referendum, I'm not sure which way I'd vote.
What I will say is this: the EU is in drastic need of reform.
When was the last time EU accountants successfully balanced their books? Was it in 1995 or 1996?
It's funny how the Irish were given two referenda on the European question but the British haven't yet been given one.
Ken Livingstone: "if voting changed anything, they'd abolish it"
my bet would be for a landslide vote to leave the E.U.
The EU elite do themselves no favours whatsoever. They seem driven by ideology, and are stubbornly resistant to criticism.
If the British vote to leave the EU then the Brussels bureaucrats and career politicians only have themselves to blame, IMO.
Having been a JW for 50 years and only just coming out, I have to say the world of politics is a minefield to me to say the least.
All I see is people defending their own belief system for whatever reason. I see little difference between religion and politics. It appears to be all false promises and those at the top scamming the sheeple.
LUHE - Ken Livingstone: "if voting changed anything, they'd abolish it"
This quote sums up the way I feel about things.
Europe: is it good to stay or good to go? I have no idea, mainly because I do NOT trust either side.
I see little difference between religion and politics. It appears to be all false promises and those at the top scamming the sheeple -
Europe: is it good to stay or good to go? I have no idea, mainly because I do NOT trust either side - exactly. I'd like to see an honest debate about the pros and cons of being in the EU (and leaving it) but I don't trust either the pro side or the anti side to leave out the spin and BS.
My question re balancing the EU accounts is genuine - I read a book on the EU by some author with an MA from Cambridge, and it definitely stated that the last time the EU successfully balanced its books was in either 1995 or 1996 (sorry, memory!). If this is correct, it's nothing short of a disgrace.
The EU seems to show disdain towards democracy and believes that it knows best. I read somewhere that Peter Mandelson (ex-Labour MP and former EU commissioner) said something along the lines of "ordinary people can't be trusted to vote correctly when given the vote; politicians know best", something like that.
IMO, these and other related issues urgently need addressing - regardless of whether Britain stays in or opts out.
What we need, long before the Vote, is some proper information. But where are we going to get that ?
Journalism in this Country (U.K) is at an all-time low, the Media like TV and Radio are only interested in audience figures, Politicians lie, so the chances of a proper debate are nil.
I think it will be the usual cock-up we see in the U.K, the ill-informed who shout the loudest will carry the day, maybe tempered slightly by the "silent majority" who always go with the Status Quo.
I despair, to understand the complexities of the problem you need a Masters Degree in Economics at least, and that leaves out the political ramifications.
All of us ordinary folks will be left to follow our gut instincts, in the absence of proper information, and whe has that ever got us moving forward to a place of advantage?
