his reaction will be..............................

by kls 21 Replies latest jw friends

  • bikerchic
    bikerchic

    Hi kls and welcome to the forum! It was great talking to you in chat this morning and like onacruse and I said we will be thinking good thoughts for you tonight.......KARMA!

    I'm going to go down the list of concerns you posted and see if I can offer any kind of help for you....you decide, lol

    1.realy realy nervous how he is going to react:

    Take a deep breath, don't be nervous, you can't control his reactions. You can by being calm guide them or him so maybe he'll actually watch the show.

    2.He could blow up and say it's all lie's, they are apostates and god warned he's people they would constantly be persecuted and lied about.Or he won't even look at it saying they are apostates and i won't look at them they are the devil's voice.

    As many have already stated he probably will do just that! Please don't let it keep you from watching the show and I hope you are having it taped. You mentioned a family member taping it for you. If this is someone he has a repore with it would help if they asked him about the show and to explain how the JW's can get away with not doing anything within the org. on child abuse. The more outside people who question him the better as someone also already stated.

    3.As some of you were in the org. how do you think you would have reacted?

    When I saw info like that I did the same thing you think your hubby will do. Wrote it all off as a bunch of df'ed, disgruntled xjw's, BUT I did listen and did wonder and question things about the orginazation. Slowly it broke down my belief that they are the true religion.

    4. It's going to be hard enough him wondering how i knew it was on and why i'm watching an international news channel.

    Be up front with him, tell him you want to know more about the JW's, period, warts and all!

    I hope I helped some, just my .02. One other thing to consider is to get a good understanding or knowledge about the JW's and other cults, check out some of the books people here have talked about, read! If nothing else it will make your resolve that the JW's are a bunch of wacko's stronger and remember in any relationship it is only as strong as the weekest member.

    Best of luck tonight and please keep us updated!

    Katie

  • ESTEE
    ESTEE

    (((((kls)))))

    Hugs for ya, kls. . . I'm proud of you for the thought of even mentioning it to hubby! I figure he may want to see the show, even if for no other reason than so he would figure out what he will say when people ask him stuff when he's out in service. He may wish to prepare a rebuttal of some sort.

    My thoughts are with you tonite, honey!

    Much Love,

    Esther

  • larc
    larc

    I wonder what would happen if those with JW spouses said, "Honey I am going to watch a program about JWs this evening. I don't think you should watch it, because it might stumple you." I bet they would insist on watching it.

  • expatbrit
    expatbrit

    Well my JW wife has just told me that she would watch the programme without me, but she will not watch it with me.

    Interesting but pointless attempt at psychological warfare, methinks.

    Expatbrit

  • greven
    greven

    Opening the minds of die-hard JW's? Aint see it happen!

    What it does however is inform the public. It really takes away any claim that they are better than those "foul Katholics" or other groups. People will see through their "it's all love in our flock" scam. It will educate the people! Thumbs up!!

    Greven.

  • LB
    LB

    KLS what was his reaction?

  • Reborn2002
    Reborn2002

    larc said:

    I wonder what would happen if those with JW spouses said, "Honey I am going to watch a program about JWs this evening. I don't think you should watch it, because it might stumble you." I bet they would insist on watching it.

    I think larc has got something here.

    This is an excellent suggestion utilizing a little reverse psychology to motivate a JW to watch such a program.

    Granted, they are heavily indoctrinated in WT literature to avoid any negative publicity about JW's and to categorize all information which presents the WTS in a bad light as a smear campaign led by Satan the Devil as seen in their recent literature:

    The Watchtower, March 1st 2003 Issue, Study Article "Be Courageous and Strong!"

    Paragraph 6:

    "We also need courage when opposers maneuver the media into spreading bad reports about God's servants or when they try to restrict true worship by 'scheming trouble by decree' (Psalm 94:20) For example, how should we feel when newspapers, radio, or television reports about Jehovah's Witnesses are distortions or outright falsehoods? Should we be shocked? No. We expect such things. (Psalm 109:2) And we are not surprised when some believe the published lies and distortions, since 'anyone inexperienced puts faith in every word' (Proverbs 14:15) Still, loyal Christians refuse to believe just any statement made about their brothers, and they certainly do not allow bad publicity to cause them to miss Christian meetings, to slow down in the field ministry, or to waver in their faith. On the contrary, they 'recommend [themselves] as God's ministers'..."

    Paragraph 20:

    "Of course, persecution itself is not pleasant, but our standing firm despite persecution, including slanderous reports in the media, is a cause for rejoicing. It means we are pleasing Jehovah and will receive a reward."
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    Jehovah's Witness Preacher speaking at a Jehovah's Witness Convention, as was shown on the Australian Sunday Program "Silent Witnesses" on September 22nd 2002:

    "The media out there, with all its power and its might, it presents human nature in three Ds, three Ds - debauchery of every kind, deception of every kind and demonism of every kind - and we need to be aware of that."
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    The Watchtower, September 15th 2002 Issue, Pages 16-18:

    "In the first century, such individuals as Hymanaeus, Alexander, and Philetus, were advocating ideas that did not fit "the pattern of healthful words." (1 Timothy 1:18-20; 2 Timothy 2:16, 17) How could the early Christians avoid being led astray by apostates? By carefully studying the inspired writings and applying them in life. Those walking in accord with the example they had in Paul and other faithful ones were able to recognize and reject anything that did not conform to the pattern of truth they had been taught. (Philippians 3:17; Hebrews 5:14)

    Instead of being "mentally diseased over questionings and debates about words," they continued moving ahead in their positive course of godly devotion. (1 Timothy 6:3-6) We do the same thing when we keep on putting into practice the truths we have learned...."

    "Satan tries to break our integrity through the sowing of doubts about what we have been taught. Today, as in the first century, apostates and others seek to destroy the faith of guileless ones. (Galatians 2:4; 5:7, 8)

    Sometimes they have used the media to spread distorted information or even outright lies about the methods and motives of Jehovah's Witnesses...."

    "....Whatever stumbling blocks were involved, some evidently preferred falsehoods over the truths of God's Word. Soon they stopped practicing the things they had learned, and this was to their own spiritual detriment. -2 Peter 3:15, 16"

    "We can avoid turning aside to false stories today if we scrutinize and are selective about what we listen to and what we read.... "And modern-day apostates keep on trying to sow seeds of doubt in order to subvert the faith of Christians.... So we need to be careful."

    "....If our ears are inclined towards disgruntled ones, we need to analyze ourselves prayerfully. (Psalm 139:23, 24) Are we inclined to find fault with Jehovah's people? If so, why?...."

    "Rather than being critical, let us maintain a spiritually healthy view of the information received through personal study and congregation meetings. (1 Corinthians 2:14, 15) And instead of questioning God's Word, how much wiser it is to have the attitude of the first-century Beroeans who examined the Scriptures closely! (Acts 17:10, 11) Then, let us act on what we learn, turning down false stories and clinging to the truth."
    ---------------------------------------------------

    The Watchtower, August 1st 2001 Issue:

    Influenced by the Media?

    Maybe the media have greatly influenced your beliefs. Most people are glad that there is freedom of speech in the media, giving them access to information that can be useful. However, there are powerful forces that can and frequently do manipulate the media. What is often presented is biased information that can insidiously affect your thinking.

    In addition, to appeal to or to attract a larger audience, the media tend to give publicity to what is sensational and unconventional. What could hardly be said or printed for public consumption just a few years ago has become commonplace today. Slowly but surely, established standards of behavior are attacked and whittled away. People's thinking is gradually becoming distorted. They begin to believe that "good is bad and bad is good."-Isaiah 5:20; 1 Corinthians
    6:9, 10.
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    The Watchtower, November 1st 2002 Issue, Page 17:

    "Unfortunately, some "unreasonable men" in authority persecute us or oppose us in other ways - such as by promoting smear campaigns against us. Still, in Jehovah's due time, their lies are always exposed, and their "ignorant talk" is effectively muzzled."

    However, this type of statement that larc suggests strikes a nerve because it appeals to human curiousity and challenges their ability to maintain their faith and conviction.

    I like the idea. I think I will use that next time I encounter a Dub.

    Edited by - Reborn2002 on 30 January 2003 10:37:50

  • bikerchic
    bikerchic

    kls.......so how did it go lastnight?

    Craig and I were thinking good thought for you!

    Katie (of the curious class)

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    in Jehovah's due time, their lies are always exposed, and their "ignorant talk" is effectively muzzled

    Yup... only it is the WTS that is being exposed and muzzled. Ironically, the muzzling is being done by their own lawyers! "Don't say a word about any case... keep claiming Clergy Privilege. You know the saying... better to keep your mouth shut and be assumed to be a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"

  • avishai
    avishai

    Ask if he wants to talk to some real life jw abuse victims. My brother & I are not df'd, just "faded". You can e-mnail me if you want, We 'll call or he can call us, see if he wants to hear if it's all apostate lies from someone whos actuallly been thru it.

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