Do You Still Believe In Some Of The JW Religion? (page 2)

Mulan

NO..........nothing. Even the things they had right, they corrupted, like being honest.

They have nothing redeemable in my mind.

RAYZORBLADE

As of today: NO

Did I, after leaving the JW Religion? Yes, I did.

It took a long time, but gradually, bit by bit, much of the J Dub in me started to disappear.

Now, I am so open-minded, it would take a helluva lot to shock me these days.

The experience: that has never left me. It impacted me significantly, and therefor, until this moment, I can come here and relate/share and find some resolve to my decisions.

Good question though.

It took me years to leave and it took me years to realize that they had nothing right. I like what Mulan said they even corrupted honesty. If you cannot be honest and be who you are then what is honesty? If you are not first honest with yourself then honesty does not exist.

Edited by - Scarlet on 31 January 2003 0:42:15

Flip

I always felt that they used the few truths that they did teach as leverage to get you to swallow their other crap.

Hence, our trademark Jehovahs Witness retort, not throwing the baby (organization) out with the bath water (shite) . A statement begging debate perhaps.

However, is it so absolutely necessary to leave the little dickens wallowing in a tub with so much of it?

Edited by - Flip on 31 January 2003 0:47:58

Ravyn

I do not believe anything that had to do with the religion. But I was raised in it, and I have had the rare experiences of meeting some genuinely spiritual people who have taught me a few things. Had nothing to do with the religion, except that they happened to be a part of it at the time.

Ravyn

Gizmo

The song below expresses my beliefs best, as for the (b)org, they have allowed their insatiable hunger for supremacy, power, and the short sightedness of prejudice, to corrupt what at one time could have been a very safe and loving sanctuary.

Theocracy? I think not.

A centralized control by an autocratic authority would be a more accurate description.

I believe that children are our future
Teach them well and let them lead the way
Show them all the beauty they possess inside
Give them a sense of pride to make it easier
Let the children's laughter remind us how we used to be

Everybody's searching for a hero
People need someone to look up to
I never found anyone who fulfilled my need
A lonely place to be and so I learned to depend on me

I decided long ago never to walk in anyone's shadow
If I fail, if I succeed at least I'll live as I believe
No matter what they take from me, they can't take away my dignity
Because the greatest love of all is happening to me
I found the greatest love of all inside of me
The greatest love of all is easy to achieve

Learning to love yourself, it is the greatest love of all

I believe that children are our future
Teach them well and let them lead the way
Show them all the beauty they possess inside
Give them a sense of pride to make it easier
Let the children's laughter remind us of how we used to be

I decided long ago never to walk in anyone's shadow
If I fail, if I succeed at least I'll live as I believe
No matter what they take from me, they can't take away my dignity
Because the greatest love of all is happening to me
I found the greatest love of all inside of me
The greatest love of all is easy to achieve

Learning to love yourself, it is the greatest love of all

And if by chance that special place that you've been dreaming of
Leads you to a lonely place, find your strength in love

written by Michael Masser and Linda Creed

ydidIanswerthedoor

Unfortunately, I guess, there are many things that I was taught that I cling to. ie: No saluting the flag, no going to war, no voting, no dircet involement with politics, no burning hell, dead, dead. I am df'd and 4 out of 5 of my kids can't speak to me and I don't like the way the dubs handle the df's but I do know that in the NT it say's "not even eating with such a person." I can see where there are things in there that I can' t refute so it almost makes me not believe in the Bible or just to ignore all religious thought. Sad, huh?

NeonMadman

I became a JW because I believed the Bible and wanted to serve God.

I left the JW's because I believed the Bible and wanted to serve God.

I still believe the Bible and want to serve God.

However, when I left the JW's, I came to understand that they had deceived me about what the Bible really said and meant. Therefore, I now recognize that everything they taught me about the Bible (and about everything else, for that matter) is suspect, and is subject to being verified by actual investigation. And that I should never again allow human beings to be the interpreter of what the Bible says, but should do my own study and reach my own conclusions, under the teaching of the Holy Spirit, as Jesus promised.

That process is ongoing...

peacefulpete

Doctrine is no longer an issue since learning the history of the Bible's formation, but ethics and pop-psychology are the real reason most are JWs, but these are merely extracted from secular souces and respun as Bible advice by skillfully using broad universaly esteemed principles that found their way into the Scriptures. In other words all the valuable advice about family and marriage etc. could be learned elsewhere without the religious twist in the last paragraph. So do I cling to JW teahings? no, I cling to principles that humans univerally recognize as valuable that happened to be in the Bible among other places and seek to apply them as universally as I can.

A Paduan

The most fundamental basics of jwism are misinformation which is 'of this world' - namely working for goodness and/or getting what you deserve.

The Foundation of God is shown both in nature and in biblical texts - God gives - to both the good and bad.

Those like Judas, who was willing to do stuff (eg follow Jesus), live according to the ways of this world of people, not the ways of the kingdom. He made mistakes like the rest of us - but when he killed an innocent, he believed he lost in a trade he had been making. God had not been revealed to Judas - the idea of a trade had been his belief (they love the salutations at the marketplaces), not goodness to good and bad, the knowledge of Him - once revealed, nothing can take away that knowledge of God being good and not a dealer ( to know Him )- nor a beast to be satisfied, i.e. like us, nor an imaginary one either.

There is no thing that they teach I can think of as valuable, based on that stuff.

paduan

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