Yes,
I never had time for shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or a shit! lol
by minimus 27 Replies latest jw friends
Yes,
I never had time for shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or a shit! lol
Hey Brummie and Lisa,
Nice to see you on this thread :-)
Anyway, I pioneered for 9 years.
Like Brummie, I did enjoy it. Me and my wife helped six people come into the truth.
The Negatives of it was that, even with this record, me and my wife STILL got hammered by elders and other pioneers for being "Phantom Pioneers."
It bothered me because we were very sincere and hard working, but because we didn't always meet the status quo of meeting at 9 every morning. We probably met about 2 mornings a week and the rest were afternoons and studies in the evening.
However, we were much more successful than any other pioneer in the cong - but we were still Phantom Pioneers in their eyes.
The Positives is that to this day, is that I've learned to be tremendously productive. Maybe that's not totally good, because only recently I just learned how to smell the roses. But a pioneers schedule was so tight that I learned to make good use of time.
Howdy Confuz
The Negatives of it was that, even with this record, me and my wife STILL got hammered by elders and other pioneers for being "Phantom Pioneers." It bothered me because we were very sincere and hard working
Grrr....Very Negative! they always acted like they could read your heart condition...that got right up my nose, people were really trying hard to do what they thought was right for God and these mere men (who never seem to pioneer) jump in with their judgements and interfered with any relationship that JWs strove for with Jah.
On another issue, I think pioneering is a real treadmill set up, its hard to get off the pioneer treadmill after the first year because you have so many mag routes and bible studies and return visits ...naturally you are made to feel responsible for every single one of them, their chance of salvation depends on you so you wouldnt dream of just quitting spending all those hours calling on them.
This is what made it difficult to leave the borg, the thought that you were going to be held responsible for the deaths of these people. It took me a while to understand that God is the one in control of their destination and salvation, they didnt need me at all...lol. How arrogant we became...as if their salvation depended on us JWs.
I've enjoyed reading everyones post here, good thread!
Brummie
Finally I just thought to myself...... Screw this $h!t. Maybe Jehovah doesn't want me to pioneer.
Roflmao @ Scully! and @ Sloan!
Sloan you could have counted time while taking a dump if you presented the "truth" to whoever was sitting in the next cubicle...or if at home, by making a phone call to a random number in the phone book while evacuating the last meal you ate....there was always a way to turn taking a dump into a theocratic "witnessing" experince.
Scully I dont know if things changed but you HAD to have a part time job before you could regular pioneer? even if it was just 1 hour a week to make it look like we were not conning the government welfare system into paying for us pioneering. Anyway I liked your reasoning in the end, made me laugh loud!
Brummie
I pioneered for a year.
I did learn how to master the "Pioneer Walk" from an older pioneer that I often worked with.
For those here who have never been a JW, the Pioneer Walk is similar to Michael Jackson's Moon Walk. You appear to be moving forward but really remain in one place. It allow you to be assigned to a block with 6 or 7 houses, find no one at home, and yet spend all morning doing it.
*****Rub a Dub
Brummie writes:
Scully I dont know if things changed but you HAD to have a part time job before you could regular pioneer? even if it was just 1 hour a week to make it look like we were not conning the government welfare system into paying for us pioneering. Anyway I liked your reasoning in the end, made me laugh loud!
The reasoning I was given regarding my part-time job was that because my husband was working full-time already, I should have been able to be a housewife and pioneer, but being a member of the work-force might be spreading myself too thin... We can't have me neglecting my wifely duties or being too tired to give the "marital due", now can we??
Love, Scully
I was happy pioneering, but I was also one of those fanatical, gleam in their eye cult like followers who was trying to "redeem" myself for having a secret boyfriend at school. My mom made me quit school when she found out, and I started pioneering, I was a zombie... studying all the time, made every meeting, had a part almost every week, went out in field service every single day... hmmm. I THOUGHT I was happy... maybe I was just to busy to notice.....
yumbby, a guilty pioneer is a good pioneer.