There Were TWO Child Molesters Hiding In My Old Congregation

by pale.emperor 16 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • pale.emperor
    pale.emperor

    It's come out in my old congregation that, not one, but TWO child molesters have been hiding in my old congregation. I knew both of them and one of them, an old man, was regularly at my house for field service meetings on a weekly basis.

    In my old congregation there's an apostate who was awake long before i was. Unfortunately he cant leave because his wife and children and parents are still full on believers. Standing on carpark security duty one evening we got talking and he planted the seeds that got the ball rolling to my awakening. He called me this morning to tell me that one of the old brothers in the congregation has killed himself. Jumped off of his apartment building (like 12 floors high).

    Lets call him Scumbag 1 - This guy was from South America. Very kind and knowledgeable about the scriptures. Always on the ministry. I mean, like, ALL DAY EVERYDAY. I noticed when i was in the congregation that he never gave talks or held any position. I asked my elder father in law a few years ago how come he isnt being used more. What he said then i never gave much thought about, he said "Bro XXX will never hold any position in the congregation. It's about his past. We all make mistakes and Jehovah has forgiven him but he'll never go any further than where he is".

    This was the phonecall i got:

    "Hey man. Just need to update you about something. Bro XXXX is in hospital. He jumped off the roof of his apt building. His wife is going round telling everyone he's in hospital because of a heart attack and people are getting confused and asking questions because they're trying to turn up to the hospital to support them but they're being told he's in a critical condition for blunt force trauma. His son reported him to the police last week for molesting him and his bro & sisters when they were kids. He was abusing <daughter 1> from age 8!! His son's little girl told her parents that Bro XXXX wanted her to keep secrets from her parents. Obviously the police were starting to pry into this and next thing you know he's jumped off his apt building. They reckon he'll be dead before the end of the day."

    This explains A LOT. Not only does it explain why he wasn't allowed to go any further, it also explains that the elders must have known about this because he wasn't allowed to pioneer or hold any position.

    His wife must have known about it because she's lying to the friends about why he's in hospital in the first place and surely all his kids must have mentioned something. Abusing all of his children all that time and she never knew?

    And it explains why all of his children wanted nothing to do with him as soon as they left the family home. Which means the elders have allowed a pedophile to come into my home and be around my family and young children.

    Then he tells me that there's more. Last month another brother was arrested and is now serving a prison sentence. The elders had to go into the prison to disfellowship him.

    Lets called this one Scumbag 2 - He was kind of a loner. Always sat at the back by the sound desk. One of my "privileges" was sound desk so i used to make casual conversation with him. He always had a tan no matter what the weather. An elderly couple befriended him, this elderly couple cared for their teenage granddaughter of about 13yo and grandson of about 9yo. They were always going on days outs together, they'd give him lifts to the meetings, to conventions, to witness parties etc. Next thing you know he's been arrested. No one in the congregation knew why. He asked the elderly couple to go into his house to feed his dog while he was in custody. When the old brother went into his home to feed the dog he found "something" which deeply upset and disturbed him. Despite the impeccable rumor mill the JW's have, no one has of yet managed to wrangle out of the elders what it was. BUT... the teenage granddaughter was called into the backroom after the Sunday meeting. She left in tears. That's all we know so far.

    My reckoning is that he's done something to her, or was planning to and it's been discovered. He's in prison most likely for molesting some other poor child. It's a sad sad state of affairs, not something im reveling over even though i hate the cult. I really hope the families see this cult for what it is and get out now.

  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams

    There was a convicted child sex offender hiding in my old congregation, too. I didn't find out about it straight away.

    He had apparently been convicted of child abuse decades ago but had admitted it to the elders, got df'd and done time, then repented and was working his way back into the congregation. He used to read at the book study. I remember that a married JW couple let their 5 year old daughter go up to him and speak to him after the book study meeting. An elder, who was married to his sister, used to accompany him in FS.

    This paedo was married. Before I found out about his crimes, I heard his wife joking that his hair either side of his bald patch, blown up by the wind, was 'devil's horns'.

    It then came out that he hadn't told the whole story about his decades-old offences.

    He was df'd again but I don't think the elders went to the police again.

    His wife divorced him. I don't know what happened to him after that.

    Hopefully he's dead now.

  • StephaneLaliberte
    StephaneLaliberte

    Well, this is somewhat tricky. I believe in the secret of confession. If a molester confessed to a priest, and the priest keeps it to himself, I believe it is alright as the priest would never have known otherwise; the pedophile relied on the secrecy of confession. Hence, in this case, at least, we have a priest who can go back to the pedophile at various times and heavily encourage him to make things right with God and seek help through the judicial system. The priest may even seek out the victim and (subtlety) try to make her talk, without ever breaking his vow of secrecy.

    In Quebec, abusers generally serve between 6 months to 6 years in jail and then, have access to a wide spectrum of professional services to help them not repeat their crimes. To me, going through these things and seeking actual help is, in fact, works of repentance.

    The problem with the JWs is that they do not believe in the secrecy of confession. If the brother committed his crime while baptized, automatically 8 people will be aware of what is happening. The victim, her parents, 2 elders, the abuser, and 2 members of the watchtower’s legal department. In that context, if an abuser confesses to his elders, he does understand that he will face consequences for his crime and that it will not stay between him and his confessor.

  • Simon
    Simon

    It's strange, but "zealous devotion" is often praised but really means mentally unbalanced. The guy who ran over / stabbed people at the uni was apparently upset if he couldn't pray 5 times a day.

    Anyone that obsessed with the phantom sky-man is clearly nuts.

    Well, this is somewhat tricky. I believe in the secret of confession. If a molester confessed to a priest, and the priest keeps it to himself, I believe it is alright as the priest would never have known otherwise; the pedophile relied on the secrecy of confession. Hence, in this case, at least, we have a priest who can go back to the pedophile at various times and heavily encourage him to make things right with God and seek help through the judicial system. The priest may even seek out the victim and (subtlety) try to make her talk, without ever breaking his vow of secrecy.

    The problem with this scenario, as it's actually played out, is that it makes "being a priest" a great opportunity for a pedophile. The culprits are never caught, just more vulnerable victims identified ... too often for further abuse.

    We need open law enforcement otherwise who watches the watchers and how do we know what they are doing? The whole "don't tell anyone" is what these creeps rely on. Better for investigations to involve a group of people paid to do it vs someone who's volunteered for a weirdigan job in the first place.

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    Let me know when Scumbag #1 is dead. I want to celebrate.

    Also, don't you find it telling that JWs will know all the sins of everyone, but when it comes to child rape, they stop gossiping? Its like they can't handle the hard truth, so they ignore it. Meanwhile, if someone gets tipsy at a JW function, it's front page news.

    DD

  • Crazyguy
    Crazyguy

    Isn't it amazing that the elders will deal with these scumbags disfellowshiped them but still not report them to the police.

  • Faded
    Faded

    There is no "good side" to this, but you need to let your lawyer know about this as part of your custody dispute. Your father in law knew that scumbag 1 was a pedo & you had him over to your home with your young child and he never warned you? And now your ex & young child is staying with this same father in law? That is so disturbing.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    pale.emperor - "There were TWO child molesters hiding in my old congregation..."

    Hmph.

    From all the reports at this point, you'd think there was a quota or something.

  • Life is to short 2
    Life is to short 2

    We had 3 in the hall I went to here in the North West in the state's.

    Same thing the elder's kept it under wraps, even threatened to df me because I told a foster mom. this one elder telling me he had to convince the mom that brother pedophile was safe to be around, all because of me and that I was nothing more than a pure gossip.

    It just makes my blood boil.

    LITS

    Also all the child molesters I have seen loooooove field service. Funny how that is.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    Life is to short 2 - "...all the child molesters I have seen loooooove field service..."

    Now why doesn't that surprise me?

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