Just In: CP 5PM Feb. 6 Disclosing CDN Abuse Files

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  • hawkaw
    hawkaw

    Well concerned ... I don't think it got into too many papers that I know of in Ontario - oddly. I wonder if it was because of the time it was released and the revision it got.

    I quized the Toronto Star as to why it was on their web site but not in their paper. I was told they would take it up with their editor at the National desk but ... now that a day goes by I think it will be stale. I know the person at the desk said it was a very newsworthy story.

    CP writes stories that do go Canada wide and end up in almost every newpaper. The story was pretty hard hitting on the door to door issue never mind the files and it followed a very popular TV show and before that a nightly newscast report on CBC.

    I do know this ... we are perfectly set up for some serious press when Vicki Boer's trial decision comes down thanks to the TV shows and prevous press.

    hawk

  • outnfree
    outnfree

    Having been a member of the public relations profession some years back, THIS is what struck ME about Clive Thomas' remarks:

    "The policy of the church . . . is that no one who has a history of that type of behaviour, which has been established, would be put in a position of trust or responsibility in the congregation," he said.

    This is "establishing deniability." It would have been very nice if the reporter's follow-up would have been "and how does the Jehovah's Witness organization deem that such 'type of behaviour' has 'been established'?" Because while the public might assume that the matter would, naturally, be established by LAW ENFORCEMENT, we know it is far more likely that Mr. Thomas is talking about the congregation (i.e., the elders) as having established that the Witness in question had 'a history of that type of behaviour." Not at all the same thing.

    Mr. Thomas concludes:

    "They could remain a member, they could be re-admitted to the church if they are repentant, but that's not a danger to others."

    Again, it would be the WATCHTOWER SOCIETY'S [untrained and biased] opinion that the member who 'had a history of that type of behaviour' would pose no danger to other children in the congregation or among the general public.

    And was it NathanNatas who wondered about the possibility of Brother Pedo wandering off alone in the name of "efficiency" to cover more territory at the suggestion of unsuspection Brother GoAlong? Well, what about SISTER Pedo who is INSTRUCTED by Brother GoAlong to work the doors singly (as long as they work house about and are in sight of one another). We know she is required by Witness doctrine to comply with the field service instructions of any male in the car group. Or, alternatively, Brother PEDO instructs Sister GoAlong that they will handle the territory in the aforesaid 'house about' manner? Or how about rural territory? Brother or Sister Pedo is left behind in the car diddling the child[ren] while the other grownups take the door?

    Those of us who are/were Witnesses understand exactly how these scenarios could play themselves out. The difficulty is in conveying the very REAL danger to JW children of such field service arrangements to the press, legislators and the general public. How do we get a friend/neighbor/relative/reporter/politician to sit still long enough to understand the various possible opportunities for abuse that arise EVERY DAY in the Witness world? How to get them to SEE with eyes of understanding what we KNOW by instinct, having been Jehovah's Witnesses ourselves?

    out

  • outnfree
    outnfree

    bttt for pearljan

  • UnDisfellowshipped
    UnDisfellowshipped

    outnfree said:

    The difficulty is in conveying the very REAL danger to JW children of such field service arrangements to the press, legislators and the general public.

    I agree.

    outnfree said:

    How do we get a friend/neighbor/relative/reporter/politician to sit still long enough to understand the various possible opportunities for abuse that arise EVERY DAY in the Witness world? How to get them to SEE with eyes of understanding what we KNOW by instinct, having been Jehovah's Witnesses ourselves?

    I think I have a pretty good way that would definitely get their attention:

    Explain to the friend/neighbor/relative/reporter/politician that Jehovah's Witnesses are sending accused, known, and convicted child molesters door-to-door, possibly in their neighborhood, and ask them to think about what could happen if their children answered the door when "Brother Pedophile" comes knocking preaching "the Good News".

  • avengers
    avengers

    NEVER. NEVER. NEVER.

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    I did not go through every post -but in the paper yesterday it said The JW would NOT release the files of the abuses to the police...( god has spoken)

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    "(But) there's no duty in law, as we understand it, to report matters like this to the police. That's something that's not required by law."

    What about commonly accepted ethics and protecting the little children, you jerk?

    :..."They have "a clean-cut image," Thomas said. "We don't feel it's just an image; we feel it's something that Jehovah's Witnesses are."

    Uh, what was that again?

    Farkel

  • Seven
    Seven

    ...would NOT release the files...(god has spoken)

    I wonder if god has a document shredder?

  • Scully
    Scully

    Seven of Nine writes:

    ...would NOT release the files...(god has spoken)

    I wonder if god has a document shredder?

    Now that the WTS admits that the files do exist, if they went ahead and shredded them, knowing that the "Superior Authorities" may be very interested in them, it's called Obstruction of Justice.

    It would be a freakin Enron/Jim Bakker/Jimmy Swaggart careening spiraling nose-diving *SPLAT* on the pavement END to the WTS in Canada.

    Love, Scully

  • Seven
    Seven

    Scully,

    End to the WTS in Canada

    Yes!! A perfect ending. Wouldn't it be great if they'd be foolish enough to take the risk and misplace a few or attempt to alter them in any way?

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