Israel Making Threats?

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  • Satanus
    Satanus

    http://www.yourmailinglistprovider.com/pubarchive.php?iapinfo+833

    Speaking during an interview which was published in Jerusalem Friday, Professor Martin Van Crevel said Israel had the capability of hitting most European capitals with nuclear weapons.

    We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets of our air force.

    Asked if he was worried about Israel becoming a rouge state if it carried out a genocidal deportation against Palestinians, Creveld quoted former Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Dayan who said Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.
    Our armed forces are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that this will happen before Israel goes under.
    Isaiah 49 6 Indeed He says,
    "It is too small a thing that You should be My Servant
    To raise up the tribes of Jacob,
    And to restore the preserved ones of Israel;
    I will also give You as a light to the Gentiles,
    That You should be My salvation to the ends of the earth."' NKJV

    All from their own mouths.

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    Edited by - saintsatan on 6 February 2003 21:21:52

    Edited by - saintsatan on 6 February 2003 22:22:13

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    Damn... whats up with Israel? Why are they saying crap like that?

  • Shutterbug
    Shutterbug

    Why are they saying crap like that?

    Because they are refusing to march back into the gas chambers. Better to go down fighting than to meekly submit to an unjust death. Bug

  • Xander
    Xander

    More like:

    Because they know just as well as everyone else in the Middle East this war will end with a US occupation of Iraq.

    Once we actually control Iraq, we will no longer need the puppet state of Israel in the region.

    Think about that a minute.

    - US has a bunch of fairly pissed of Muslims since Iraq becomes a US Territory

    - US no longer needs Israel

    - Muslims would be very happy if they got Israel 'back'

    You do the math.

    Israel is worried, and they are thus trying to point out to the world that they can defend themselves even without US support. I don't think anyone is buying it.

  • Realist
    Realist

    unbelievable what kind of people are in charge in israel...scary (especially for the palestinians).

    Xander,

    usually i agree with you but this time you are WAY off. israel has a super strong lobby in washington. the US doesn't support israel to have a base in the reason but because there are VERY influential jews in the US.

    Edited by - realist on 7 February 2003 19:12:8

  • Xander
    Xander

    I don't think the political pressure amounts to as much as you think.

    The US has shown time and again it doesn't really care what individual groups think - it acts in its own best interest. While Israeli lobbyists may have helped some get elected, that's all they do for those in Washington. They can't bring the price of gas down on their own, they can't monopolize the world's oil reserves. Israeli lobbyists only have so much influence because, like all lobbyists, all they can offer someone in office is to *help* get *some* people elected.

    The state of Israel has continued to exist because the US NEEDS a 'friend' in the region. If that need goes away....the US will be significantly less needy for Israel.

    Follow that up by the Muslims being pissed at the US for invading Iraq AND supporting Israel, and it's not hard to imagine that someone in Washington will realize some compromises must be made.

    What do YOU think Washington will do? Give Iraq back to the Muslims after the invasion is over? Or, just suddenly lose interest in Israel?

  • Realist
    Realist

    xander,

    50% of clintons stuff were jewish. although bush doesn't have so many jews in the front row they are still there. many of the US banks, investment firms and media are owned by jews. i think you greatly underestimate their power.

    Edited by - realist on 8 February 2003 6:17:29

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Realist, you are right. The strength and extent of jewish power is unknown by most people. They have a choke hold on the media and the economy in the us, britain, canada. It's no idle boast when they threaten take down the world down w them. They were instrumental in bringing the us into ww2 in order to defeat germany. They overthrew russia and w their bolshevic revolution, turned it into the great communist country that it was, then into the shell of a country it is now. Jews provided the religion that rome used to enslave the world for over a thousand yrs. Anybody who underestimates them makes a serious mistake.

    Xander

    I mostly agree with your estimation of how the US govt is using israel. However, it is a two way street, or perhaps even developing into a tail wag the dog situation. Remember how irgun expelled the british after britain delivered palestine to them. And the british are cleverer and much more experienced than are the americans.

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  • seawolf
    seawolf

    "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Seawolf

    Yes. While there are some influences that are even deeper, following are pasted names and offices of some of the pro israel jews (zionists) around w bush.

    1) Ari Fleischer, White House Press Secretary.

    2) Richard Perle, Chairman of the Pentagon Defense Policy Board, and strong advocate of war with Iraq, who was fired as an aide to Sen. H. Jackson in the 70s for allegedly passing classified documents to the Israeli embassy.

    3) Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Secretary of Defense, another hawk for war with close ties to the Israeli military.

    4) Rob't Satloff, National Security Advisor, formerly worked for the Jewish Lobby "think tank," the Institute for Near East Policy.

    5) Dov Zekheim, Under Secretary of Defense and Comptroller, holds dual Israeli-U.S. citizenship.

    6) Douglas Feith, Under Secretary of Defense and Policy Advisor at the Pentagon. A close associate of Perle, Feith is a member of the radical Zionist Organization of America. He is a lawyer whose law firm has only one overseas address -- in Israel! The firm's website boasts that it represents "Israeli armaments manufacturers."

    7) Elliot Abrams, National Security Advisor. Involved deeply in the Iran-Contra scandal, he arranged for Israel to sell U.S. weapons to Iran during its war with Iraq. He pled guilty to giving false information to congress, and was sentenced to 1 year probation plus community service. "Dubbya" granted him a full pardon after taking office.

    8) Marc Grossman, Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, a left-over from that moral degenerate Clinton's administration. (No slouch himself in his eagerness to please those who are working hard to bring America to its knees, Clinton surpassed every president in history in appointing Zionist Jews to high government positions.)

    9) Richard Haass, Director of Policy Planning for the State Department, and Ambassador at Large, he is another strong advocate for war with Iraq.

    10) James Schlesinger, Pentagon Defense Policy Board, actively promotes war with Iraq.

    11) Robert Zoellick, U.S. Trade Representative, advocates invading Iraq, and setting up a puppet government as the U.S. did in Kosovo and Afghanistan.

    12) Mel Sembler, president of the Export - Import Bank, former chairman of the Republican National Finance Committee, and another hawk.

    13) Joshua Bolten, Bush's Chief Policy Advisor, and prominent in Jewish organizations.

    14) Steve Goldsmith, Senior Advisor to the President for Domestic Policy, a former mayor of Indianapolis, Indiana.

    15) Christopher Gersten, husband of Labor Secretary, Linda Chavez, who although a Catholic, acceded to Gersten's demands that they raise their children as Jews.

    16) Daniel Saul Goldin, head of NASA. Another holdover from the stainmaker's administration, he is often referred to in the Israeli media as "a true friend of Israel."

    17) Mark Weinberger, Assistant Secretary of the Treasury.

    18) Samuel Bodman, Deputy Secretary of Commerce.

    19) Bonnie Cohen, Under Secretary of State for Management.

    20) Ruth Davis, Director of Foreign Service Institute, which is responsible for training all Department of State staff, including ambassadors.

    21) Jay Lefkowitz, General Counsel of the Office of Budget and Management. 22) David Frum, White House Speech Writer.

    23) Brad Blakeman, President's scheduler for travel and meetings.

    24) Adam Goldman, White House Special Liaison to the Jewish Community! (What does it say, dear reader, that every one of our more recent presidents has had a "special liaison to the Jewish Community"? There are no "special liaisons" to any other ethnic group in America!)

    25) Henry Kissinger, that Zionist heavyweight and blameless "patriot," who's just been named (November 2002) to head the committee empanelled to find out (are you ready for this?) whether the U.S. was remiss in not anticipating the September 11th tragedy, and to unearth the causes for the attack! Can you imagine a panel headed by Henry Kissinger ever concluding that America's unstinting and hem-kissing support for Israel in her naked aggression in the Near and Mid East was the primary cause for Muslim hatred against the U.S., and that this hatred led directly to the terrorist war that is being waged against her? We don't think so.

    (Kissinger resigned almost immediately from the 9/11 commission citing "conflict of interest" as the reason. Others believe his resignation was forced because he was considered to be too "secretive" for the job, and that he had been involved in too many alleged criminal activities in the past -- including being cozy with Saddam Hussein, and facilitating Iraq's arms build-up -- making him subject to possible indictment by the International Criminal Court being set up in the Hague.)

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