DOOMSDAY religion, is not just in ONE

by whyhideit 11 Replies latest jw friends

  • whyhideit
    whyhideit

    Recently I woke in the early morning hours to a knock on the door and my first thought was, "Jehovah's Witnesses going door-to-door." So I got myself together and went to the door and sure enough there were two people standing there with Bibles in hand. They had a flier and they started to speak, "the end is coming, God is passing judgment upon man soon." I thought, "this is a little bolder then I remember being as a Witness." So I looked at the flier and I saw they were members of another Christian church that meets here in town. I took the flier, told them to have a nice day and went back to bed.

    As I lied there in bed I got to thinking about all that is happening in the world. The economy is terrible, terrorism is scaring people, war seems to be just around the corner and there are several other problems I could hardly list in one post. I admit, sometimes when I hear about these events and stories, I flash back to some of the teachings of the Witnesses. I have even found myself, in a recent conversation, accidentally saying "this system of things is really heating up." I am sometimes shocked, that after so many years of not being a Witnesses, there are still some teachings or words bobbing around in my head. I even found myself pulling up the Watchtower CD to see what was said in prophecy, to get a handle on how Witnesses would see today's events.

    The morning went on and I thought more and more about the time we live in and the news stories of the day, and I realized something that seems to elude my thinking pattern at times. That is, that Jehovah's Witnesses do not own a monopoly on being the only religion that says these are the last days. If I walked into most Christian churches, I would hear in one way or another that God is going to pass judgment on the ungodly people of this earth. They might use phrases like Rapture, Armageddon, or the Tribulation. Yet in the end you must conclude, most Christian religions teach of a judgment or end to mankind. It seems the difference comes in the level to which they push it.

    Some churches, like the Witnesses, teach it in every moment of there day. The Witnesses think this is the "last days" and they plan every thing in their life around that. My parents did not buy a house until after 1975, because they thought the end would happen that year. I was discouraged from going to college, as the end was coming and Pioneering was more important. The list goes on and on, but in the end I conclude that I spent my Witness days thinking the END WAS NEAR, or within days. Yet despite all the religions out there teaching that concept, I only had first hand experience with the Witnesses and thought they were the only ones teaching such a message. With this flier, that I am looking at when I write this, I am some how encouraged by the fact that others have been doing the same in other churches. Why?

    Well, despite what you might think, it is not because I think the end is coming. No, rather it is because I see futility and hatred in preaching it and yet thinking you are the only one right in the matter. Maybe, the message of the end is nothing more then a fools journey into to not accepting responsibly for our own actions as humans. What if this type of thinking leads to people thinking, "well we might as well let it all fall apart, if that is what God wants." I say this, as I know I felt this way as a Witness;

    "Why help charities, God will destroy them soon anyway."

    "Why feed the poor, they will die and get a new chance in the new system of things."

    "Why fight in a war, God will erase all nations soon and put his own in place."

    Why do anything, just let it all happen the way God wants it to. Perhaps, if all the religions in the world that spent so much time out warning people that the end was coming. Took that same time to make the world a better place. We would not have such a DOOMS day scenario to deal with. Maybe we would see prophesies being fulfilled of kindness and support to our fellow man. Yet in the end, we must realize, the people who preach DOOM, WANT DOOM! After all, if you told someone they were getting a piece of chocolate cake for desert, would you want to be there when the chocolate cake did not arrive? I know I wouldn't.

    So when I read the news and hear all these stories. I feel some how a little more relaxed in knowing that I am most likely not the only fool having little doubts popping into my head. No, there are plenty of others out there saying the same thing and they are seeing all of these events as the icing on the cake, to their years of hard work. Yep, they find joy in seeing harm done onto others.

    "Love thy neighbor, if they are a fellow-believer. Love thy neighbor's pain, if they are not."

    Sure glad I actually have a heart now, and see these events as terrible and do my best to help the situation. Rather then dancing the victory dance to a desire that these days are truly the DOOMSDAY we always wanted.

    Edited by - whyhideit on 12 February 2003 23:12:9

  • DanTheMan
    DanTheMan

    Yes, JW's are hardly the only christians looking at prophecies and saying "this is it."

    The latest installment of the fundy 'Left Behind' series is out and is selling like hotcakes on Amazon. The title? Armageddon.

    Armageddonitis is breaking out all over. I think there is something to it. It seems like man's collective psyche is gearing up for a period of mass destruction and death. It all has me very very sad.

  • whyhideit
    whyhideit

    In some cosmic way, I do think that mankind wants the world to come to some destructive end. Each person with their own agenda to prove, their own religion to justify. They figure, if it all comes to an end, then maybe the next beginning will right all the mistakes we made. Who knows, but it does feel like a conclusion is on the horizon. Armageddon, I don't think so. Maybe just an awakening to higher things is upon us.

  • cornish
    cornish

    For sure their are many things in this world that give real cause for concern about mans survival,which can be worrying.

    Umpteen religions use this uncertainty in the world for thier own ends to drag in recruits,they all claim to have the ultimate guide to getting to some sort of paradise after the big day,they know when their is fear and uncertaity people will desperately seek to catch hold of something,and take the bait much easier.

  • wednesday
    wednesday

    There are many religions that teach the world will be destroyed and we will all be taken to heaven(rapture). That is fairly common. Most of these religions are mainstream. I too was not aware of this, until i became an adult. I thought jws were the only ones who knew about 'the end".Some of this has to do with being at the turn of the century. i have read that is how all the religions like jws, and 7day adventists plus numerous more got started-at the turn of the last century. the end was predicted at he turn of last century. and indeed we did have 2 world wars. Of course, now if we have a world war, we have "better" weapons. We really do have more chance of wiping a lot of mankind. Maybe man really cannnot rule himself.

  • whyhideit
    whyhideit

    Never underestimate the selling power of DOOM. Worship God from the heart, might sell to a few. Worshop God or he will kill you in the end, well that just has a selling ring to it.

  • NameWithheld
    NameWithheld

    Arg! It drives me nuts when people sell and buy into this 'Armageddon' crap. Do we all collectively forget all of history? I mean, I'm fairly young, but I did live through 'Gulf War version 1' - and ALL, I repeat ALL, of the current 'doom and gloom' scenarios were being bandied about 10 years ago. Chemical, Bilogical, Nuclear, etc. If man kicks his own ass off this planet he will have no one to blame but himself. We've been close dozens of times in the past 50 years, and probably will be close many more times before a) we finally wise up, or b) do something stupid. I'm not blind or stupid enough to think that 'all is well' and nothing can happen, but all we can do is try and help maintain our gov't best we can, and deal with events as they happen. I personally don't like the things that are happening in our gov't and the world right now, but my next chance to alter things will come in the next election.

    Meantime I will continue to live w/out fear until I die, the alternative sucks.

  • undercover
    undercover

    Doom and gloom? In what time period would you want to live? In every generation there is war. There is poverty. There is injustice. We live in the most enlightened time of man's history. Would you trade that for a time period of less enlightenment but still deal with war?

    I remember a scene from the movie Tombstone: Doc Holiday and Wyatt Earp are talking. Wyatt says he wants "a normal life". Holiday says, "There is no normal life. There's just life." And that's true of us. What is normal? What's normal for you isn't normal for someone in China. We should just enjoy what we have when we have it and deal with the bad as it comes. Forget looking for someone to save us from tribulation and learn to deal with it. Doomsayers are killjoys. They'll rob you of any happiness to prove that they are right about something bad happening. Well, bad things happen. It doesn't mean I have to stop living. I'll mourn and grieve as necessary, when necessary but then put it behind and move on.

  • DanTheMan
    DanTheMan
    Doc Holiday and Wyatt Earp are talking. Wyatt says he wants "a normal life". Holiday says, "There is no normal life. There's just life.

    excellent quote.

  • Shakita
    Shakita

    Hi Whyhideit,

    The morning went on and I thought more and more about the time we live in and the news stories of the day, and I realized something that seems to elude my thinking pattern at times. That is, that Jehovah's Witnesses do not own a monopoly on being the only religion that says these are the last days. If I walked into most Christian churches, I would hear in one way or another that God is going to pass judgment on the ungodly people of this earth. They might use phrases like Rapture, Armageddon, or the Tribulation. Yet in the end you must conclude, most Christian religions teach of a judgment or end to mankind. It seems the difference comes in the level to which they push it.

    Excellent post. As JW's we were taught that only we were preaching about the end. However, there are scores of religious groups that are preaching that the end is near. Timothy Lahaye is an evangelical that has written all the Left Behind series of books. His books concerning the end of the world are selling millions of copies. End of the world scenarios are big business.

    The JW's threaten all opposers and 'worldly' people with eternal annihilation at God's hands if they don't llisten to the message JW's preach. Evangelicals and fundamentalists threaten the unbelievers and everyone that doesn't agree with them eternal roasting in the hot place. How comforting. In my view, the JW's and all other fundamentalist and evangelical sects are extremely hostile and judgemental. They seem to think that they can decide for God who is going to live and who is going to die at Armageddon.

    Isn't it nice whyhideit to be able to think for ourselves without WT static getting in the way?

    Mr. Shakita

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