How many years left to Armageddon

by JH 99 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • AlanF
    AlanF

    Take off your sectarian blinders, JH. Jesus said exactly the opposite of what you've been taught. Do you really need to have me, who is thoroughly skeptical about the Bible, explain it to you? Don't you have enough spiritual sense to get the point?

    2 Peter 3:4 says nothing about signs. It says that people would scoff at the notion of Christ's return, not because they failed to see any supposed signs, but because, as you quoted, "From the time when our ancestors fell asleep, everything has remained as it was from the beginning of creation." It's not that these people would be too stupid or unobservant to see some signs, but because there would be no signs to see! How do we know this? Because 2 Peter 3:5-7 states that "the last days" would be like the days of Noah. The people of Noah's day were not given any signs of impending doom; thus the people to whom Peter was talking could expect to be given no signs. 2 Peter 3:10 makes this perfectly clear: "The day of the Lord will come like a thief." How does a thief in the night come? With signs that announce that he is about to arrive? Of course not. A thief in the night comes without any warning at all. The only "sign" of his arrival is his arrival itself. Everything Jesus said in Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21 tells Christians: "You can't know the time of my coming, so don't even bother trying to figure it out. I'll be there when I arrive. Any of you who start looking for a sign should be avoided by real Christians."

    Why is it so hard for many Chistians to understand these simple points? Partly because they don't read the Bible and think for themselves; they accept spoon feeding from their religious leaders, just as JWs do. Partly because their indoctrination makes them impatient for "the end" and so they so much want "the end" to come Real Soon Now and to get their reward that they refuse to consider anything else. In other words, they've been deceived, and this deception makes them feel good.

    AlanF

  • JH
    JH
    Jesus said exactly the opposite of what you've been taught

    Interesting AlanF

    Edited by - jh on 15 February 2003 19:30:3

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    ..."Orthodox catholicism is against millenialism/apocalypticism."....

    Doubtless, like all the rest, they had 300 years of prophetic failure and disappointment before they learnt their lesson. The dubs only have another 150 years to go .

  • animal
    animal

    "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom"

    So, if one doesnt think there is any "lord", they will never be wise?

    Animal

  • JH
    JH

    There comes a time where people either believe what is in the bible or don't believe.

    This can be said for any version of the bible.

    I wonder what has to come first. Do you believe in God first, so then you accept the bible as his word, Or do you believe in the bible first and then believe in God afterwards because the bible talks about God.

    Edited by - jh on 15 February 2003 17:45:24

  • Pleasuredome
    Pleasuredome

    within the next 10 years...

    *looking at his watch....

  • AlanF
    AlanF

    Readers will note that Sherwood is unable to respond at all, and JH has assumed the classic posture of the Fundamentalist hearing things he cannot refute: fingers in ears and loudly chanting, "La la la la la la la la la la!"

    AlanF

  • JH
    JH

    That's the answer you get from JW's, when you ask them when the end will come. They always say before 10 years. It's like asking how many inches is your nose in front of your face. It's always the same. Both never change.

    la la la la la

    Edited by - jh on 15 February 2003 18:2:18

  • A Paduan
    A Paduan

    The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

    Try not to get stuck at the start. Love casts out fear.

  • johnny cip
    johnny cip

    it seems that JH, IS EITHER TACTING IN THE WIND, or he has come to his senses . i see a 180 degree turn around in this thread... were is my friend SHERWOOD.. I guess he will be in the public library before he tries that wt pile of shit again.... Sherwood tell me about the punic wars... or ganic khan or the mongole hourds..... the wt is in bad shape when a person like me , with limited knowledge can make lairs out of them with ease.....john

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