Would You Like To See Your Police Departments “Defunded”?

by minimus 64 Replies latest jw friends

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  minimus

  Do you think it’s a good idea?
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  Tameria2001

  Not a good idea, but there should be some serious policy changes. Also, there should be a mandatory psych evaluation implemented,
  
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  WTWizard

  Not unless I want crime to get out of control. It is true that there are some bad cops out there--and that includes those that make arrests for petty issues or give speeding tickets for 1 km above the speed limit in conditions where everyone else is doing 15 or 20 above. There are also racist cops--and that is in both directions. Of course, you are never going to hear about the black cops that arrest and brutalize white suspects that are merely minding their own business--while letting black people get away with serious offenses.

  But, aside from getting rid of the obvious tyrants, they need to keep the police around so that real crime can be dealt with properly. Do you wish to not be able to do anything about your home getting burgled, especially if you are not allowed to own and use firearms as conditions warrant? And, what about those idiots that choose to drink and drive? No police makes it safer, in terms of getting caught, to drink and drive and put everyone else on the roads in danger. Yes, it might be fun to drive 75 on a 55 (that should have been 70 or more) without worrying about a speeding ticket. But, is it worth getting sideswiped by a drink driver going through a stop sign or red light?

  And I think the media is at fault. One black suspect killed by one or more white cops is news, and obviously riot worthy. But, what the media won't tell you is that the "unarmed" black suspect threatened the cop(s), or that it was a potentially dangerous situation and that such force was justified. No--they only tell about a "racist white cop" shooting down an unarmed black suspect--who may be wanted for something like armed robbery or serious assault.

  The education (indoctrination) system is also part at fault. Anywhere you see black students, you get a few that claim that it is "acting too white" if anyone actually takes their education seriously. That has to go. Also, history is full of lies--why use the excuse of past slavery to go after white people? This is no better than that bible that claims that the whole human race is indebted for a single act. Do we need to have white people go extinct because a few owned slaves, and many of them because they were worried that they would otherwise be owned by far harsher owners?

  All of which creates more bias (real bias, not just treating certain people more harshly for the same actions) in violent crime. A system that is designed to make certain groups poorer and blame it on other groups is going to result in those underprivileged groups doing more violence. They feel entitled to reparations. The only "reparation" that needs to be done is to have actions being treated according to the actions, not what group(s) the perpetrators belong to or do not belong to. This means that if you threaten a police officer, you are probably going to get shot regardless. If you try race baiting, and I don't care if you are Google or NBC Fake News, you are going to get shut down by force.

  The alternative is to have the mob ruling. This only leads to a few tyrants enslaving everyone else, and instead of "black versus white", you get the worst ruling everyone else. You say anything bad about them, you get the whole mob going after you. And they are going to be far more violent than any cops ever would be.
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  DesirousOfChange

  THERE NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTABILITY.

  BAD COPS NEED TO BE BANNED FROM WORKING IN LAW ENFORCEMENT EVER AGAIN AND LOSE THEIR PENSION AFTER ANY SERIOUS INFRACTION

  LE MUST WEAR BODY CAMERAS. ANY INCIDENT WITH A CAMERA TURNED OFF RESULTS IN BANNED FOR LIFE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.

  NO 2ND CHANCES.
  
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  redvip2000

  Course nobody should want that. That is just part of the mob hysteria created from this incident. It's sad to see the weak leaders of several cities bend over to the mob and actual plan to partially defund the police dept.

  If anything, there should more investment, and that should be channeled to better training and increase salaries to start attracting better talent.

  Defunding the police will not only result in more crime, but will result in being a less attractive job for the brightest and smart people in the country.
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  redvip2000

  Anywhere you see black students, you get a few that claim that it is "acting too white" if anyone actually takes their education seriously

  Yup and that goes for speaking with proper grammar as well, or being clean cut in appearance. Been to prison? Well that give you "street cred". The values and expectations within the community are backwards in many ways.
  
  
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  Simon

  Depends - do I want to live in Mogadishu?

  It's insane beyond belief. These people are dangerously nuts, and the dems are making "no law" their platform. This will result in gangs controlling cities and misery for thousands if they go ahead with it.

  I've seen dumb claims online, like "hey, Compton did away with their police force!" (it's now the murder capital of America).

  This is the cherry and icing of bad ideas. It's peak dem when someone has grabbed the wheel, leapt out the left-hand door of the vehicle and kept hold of it. Off the leftist cliff we go!
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  JeffT

  Yesterday the city of Seattle's resident socialist council member (Kshama Sawant) demanded that the Mayor (Jenny Durkan) resign over police misconduct during the riots protests. She also wants the budget for the police department cut in half.

  Tonight in a new confernce Durkan said she planned to make the budget cut next year, She did not address leaving office at all. Sawant now says she's going to start an impeachment process, possibly as soon as Monday morning.

  For those not familiar with Seattle politics Durkan is a lesbian, and in any other city would be considered well to the left of "moderate." Apparently the local lefties have chose to treat her like Atila the Hun.

  I need to check my popcorn supply.
  
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  coalize

  Before to defund the police, you have to stop to allow everybody to carry weapons. Like in all another first-world countries in the world
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  Anna Marina

  When there is no decent security tourism goes down. So that effects the economy.

  In such a situation, I imagine the roads and hospitals wont get maintained, sanitation will be poor and maybe the infection rate for corona virus will go up.