no one goes to heaven, no one gets resurrected, no one lives forever on a paradise earth,
jb, proof of that still has to be delivered, but the wt fallacies are here right now, poof that wt writings are scripturally wrong,
Governing Body-Part of Great Crowd
by TakeOffTheCrown 26 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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waton
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Village Idiot
The Bible is convoluted as it is. Add Watchtower doctrine to that and it gets worse.
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Diogenesister
The GB will have to be led by the great crowd at some point pretty soon. “The generation” who sees the end overlaps with the first generation, therefore must have been anointed before the last of the first generation died. Fred Franz died in 1992 at the age of 99, to be of “the generation” realistically they must have been anointed before 1992. It’s unlikely any of that group will be alive after, say, 2052.
Any time after the overlappers die, on current doctrine, will be the time the Great Crowd will have to take over.
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Diogenesister
BUT...all current members of the GB were helpers to previous GB members and there is a WT, after 1992, that states all helpers were of the great crowd thus NOT ONE of the current GB was anointed in 1992 which was the magic year they used in their broadcast to define that "second generation" that overlapped with the lives of the "first" (F.Franz death).
Just to say, they didn’t say that helpers had to be of the great crowd, just that they could be. That doesn’t rule out anointed helpers.
NotsureWhereToGo thus NOT ONE of the current GB was anointed in 1992 which was the magic year they used in their broadcast to define that "second generation" that overlapped with the lives of the "first" (F.Franz death).
Well Cook for sure wasn’t. One of jwDN members stated he only became anointed around 10 or 11 years ago. (The spirit came to him in the Bethel canteen, apparently!)
That definitely makes him of the Great Crowd.
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waton
ntswtg: The current GB members are all part of the "third generation" that neither saw 1914 nor were anointed at the time of living with an anointed person who did see 1914.
David Splane made the point that the groups in the generation of 1914 anointed will roll on longer than Franz and his un-named older overlapper. She could be another 120 year old record breaker for all we know.
The wt generation is not the 8/9 F&DS,/GB, but all the partakers since 1914, some overlapping, made up of
much larger older groups.
just commenting on the insular, irrelevant doctrine.
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Diogenesister
just commenting on the insular, irrelevant doctrine.
True, of course. All silly speculation.
But it is highly unlikely she lived beyond the year 2000 or so.
Basically what I am saying is there is a sell-by date on this doctrine and the GB will have to become part of the GC at some point.
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waton
D-sister,
with such super-centenarian partaker as outer markers, guardians of the overlapping generation possible, the ages of the Governing Body members become irrelevant, they can live happily within the outer bounds of that generation made up of these 2 long-lived groups of other sister partakers.
There is no danger of the current F&DS members to fall outside that huge time span.
I am raising this spectre though: What would happen if their anointing, sealing would be found to be invalid? like an invalidated baptism?
In that case they would revert back into the Other sheep class, where they (and the Apostles) came from? but
WT doctrine has it, that an unfaithful, fallen anointed, like having sinned against the Holy Spirit, will not be in paradise with the Great Crowd of OS. thank you.
Glad that stuff does not impact on my life.