None of these 3 groups that respond will have any affect on a jw visiting this site out of curiosity or reaching out for help, in fact it may double their resolve that they have the truth.
your point is well taken, and i agree, in fact that has been my view for years, i truly believe that such sites as this could be much more effective if their angle of approach was different
i have stated over and over that when someone comes they should be commended JUST FOR BEING HERE - for what they say in thier post REALLY DON'T MATTER , the mere fact that they logged on, registered and now actually post in my view is simply amazing,
I THNK that we can learn alot from the techniqued used by jw everyday- when a jw ask a householder what do they think is the solution to mans problem - the jw don't give a RATS ASS what they say- it ain';t like the jw is going to say, Damn man i never thought of that point, nope instead they merely want to engage the person in dialog to relax the person and let them see that they are not going to run,rape or steal the family station wagon
once this "relationship" is est then the fear and walls come down and the result is friendlyness
look in the Sept 1-15- 81 wt on DFing DONT' SAY HELLO CAUSE IT IS THE FIRST LINK TO BECOMING A FRIEND-
well here is a chance to use those same techniques in a positive way, instead of a way to trap someone into a religion where prior to baptism they are commended for asking TONS OF QUESTIONS and then after baptism it is all but FORBIDDEN unless you ask in the context of I KNOW THE SOCIETY IS RIGHT I JUST DONT' UNDERSTAND- never can a question be asked in the context of WT GOT THIS WRONG MAN-
The reason i say this is due to the number of emails i get from folks who NEVER POST -THEY ARE LURKERS and while a tough hide is good on debate forums
everyone is not into back and forth mud slingiing,so they sit quietly on the side and will often touchbase with folks OFFLINE
I take you for example, many of us see ourselves in you, I recall when i first came to the net a true Society Man and it was much like you have found it to be-
for someone just lurking around the introduction they get is often times just like the wt describes in their mind FOAMING AT THE MOUTH APOSTATES who drink , smoke dope and fornicate every hour on the hour- but to my surprise i went OFF LINE with a few folks who were just rolling out DOCUMENTATION LEFT AND RIGHT telling me tolook this up and look that up and i could not deny what i was reading
most the time in my exp you will find the poster who go off are those who have been hurt the most and it just pains them to see some "Uninformed" jw make a statement that reveals how little the person knows about the org,and as a result they will GO OFF, of course this many times proves to be a turn off, but for some who see thru the pain and hurt and not used the anger as an excuse to not examine the documentation LEARN ALOT
so for me i welcome you-- for i realize that you come here literally at the risk of being DFed in your congo
we all realize that what you think and feel sad to say can't be discuss with most folks at your hall and therefore you like many of us have had to repress what we really thought about issue
I tell anyone when a jw Logs on to this site more than once, this person is already on THEIR WAY OUT AND JUST DON'T KNOW IT
one of the most interesting things about Information is regardless of whether we act or it now or later we never can get it out of our head-
take for example most jw in your hall have no idea that the WT signed up to be a memeber of the UN like 100's of other religions to get the assistance that the UN provides, while in an of itself there may be nothing wrong with it- the problem is for over 50yrs the wt has DOGGED other religions for doing the very thing that they have done secretly for 10yrs
now even if you leave and never come back THAT FACT WILL ALWAYS BE IN YOUR MINDS
AND when you go to the conventions, assemblies or just Fred giving the public talk on sunday and they start to RANT AND RAIL about how the churches look to the UN for help and we look to the Kingdom of god you will know that my friend is what we call in NC a "Black A$$ Lie"
SO while a person may leave this site and others the knowledge and information you take in will never leave you
too be honest i can see why the wt FORBIDDES YOU AND I to even come to such sites , to even read such information, to even discuss the implications of such info on our belief system as a jw
i understand fully for if i had as much dirt in my closet as wt i would not want YOU OR ANYONE ELSE SNOPPING AROUND
SMILE
welcome and remember
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The Freedom to Think means:
"I'd rather have Questions that I can't Answer ----Than Questions, I can't Ask.
(or Answers that I can't Question)."
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