How to Argue for Creationism

by cofty 41 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • never a jw
    never a jw

    Venus:"No, evolution and creation both are a matter of faith"

    Two things couldn't be farther apart. It's sad the state of things today; people still believe the myths and fables of 3,000 years ago were facts. Never mind that those myths are from the same book that requires stoning women who were not virgin at wedding day.

  • Giordano
    Giordano

    Dear God thank you for my daily delusion.

  • venus
    venus
    never a jw

    Yes I agree with you. If all religious people were true to their faith that there is a God, and had lived as one world-family with God as its Head, no one would have thought about an alternative explanation such as Evolution. To be worse, religions did more disservice to the cause of God putting irrational things such as ‘death sentence to apostates.’ (Deut 13:10). Seeing such irrationalities, even Richard Dawkins called God of the Bible as “a monster.” (God Delusion, page 46). People lose their faith in God “in the presence of unjustified religious beliefs,” wrote Sam Harris, in his Letter to a Christian Nation.

  • cofty
    cofty

    Asserting that accepting the fact of evolution requires faith is as obtuse as claiming that we need faith to believe that the moon is not made of cheddar cheese.

  • cofty
    cofty
    no one would have thought about an alternative explanation such as Evolution - venus

    Evolution is not an alternative to belief in god. . The majority of intelligent christians accept the scientific fact that all living things including humans descended from a common ancestor by evolution over millions of years.

    It is only a small percentage of fundies who deny the evidence. Invariably they have never bothered to study the facts.

  • venus
    venus

    Even Darwin wrote that “we know of the laws impressed on matter by the Creator.”
    (
    Origin, Sixth Edition, London: John Murray, 1876, p. 428)

  • Earnest
    Earnest

    Darwin wrote "when I view all beings not as special creations, but as the lineal descendants of some few beings which lived long before the first bed of the Cambrian system was deposited, they seem to me to become ennobled". (Origin, Sixth Edition, London: John Murray, 1876, p. 428)

  • ttdtt
    ttdtt

    Just make sure the other person is not interested in Logic, Facts, or Reason, and your set.

  • cofty
    cofty
    Even Darwin wrote that “we know of the laws impressed on matter by the Creator.” - Venus

    What do you mean by 'even Darwin'?

    Darwin's theological opinions are of no consequence whatsoever. His loss of faith was gradual. He even studied at Cambridge to be a minister of religion as a younger man. His final rejection of belief in god followed the death of his favourite daughter Annie. I have visited her grave - something Darwin could not bring himself to do.

    How many times do I have to repeat that evolution is accepted by all rational christians. It is a fallacy to conflate the scientific fact of biological evolution with the philosophical position of atheism.

    Nobody cares how many learned men you can find who believed in god.

  • cofty
    cofty

    Venus - It's always worth doing a little research into context before you 'quote-mine'.

    Laws impressed on matter by the Creator”? - The Origin and the Question of Religion" by John Hedley Brooke.

    pdf link here...


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