So, let me get this straight ...
America was going to win and the commies were going to loose ... until they decided they didn't fancy loosing and then America decided to loose.
Is that right?
by DakotaRed 75 Replies latest jw friends
So, let me get this straight ...
America was going to win and the commies were going to loose ... until they decided they didn't fancy loosing and then America decided to loose.
Is that right?
it would appear that the US was winning the war, just as General Westmoreland said
That's not what "A Bright Shining Lie" says! It seems clear the "locals" i.e. the Viet Cong were always going to win. It just needed time.
the South Vietnamese would still be free
Were they free? Free from what? They certainly weren't free from an American-sponsored despotic regime. Leave 'em to it would seem to have been the best option. After all, aren't they better off for it today?
Cheers, Ozzie
So, let me get this straight ...America was going to win and the commies were going to loose ... until they decided they didn't fancy loosing and then America decided to loose.
Is that right?
Simon, surely, you can spin better than that.
Tet Offensive of 1968 - A Simpler VersionTet Offensive -- Monicawhat are the cause and effects of the TET offensive? and who won this campaign? I don't really get this event! can someone tell me the story in a easier version? I am in the 9th Grade. Monica, Here is an answer to a very complex question. The Tet Offensive of 1968 was an initiative of the North Vietnam Army to have the civilian population of South Vietnam join them in their offensive and efforts to overthrow the South Vietnam Government, forcing the withdrawal of the United States Armed Forces. The Tet Offensive of 1968 was conceived by General Giap, commander of the North Vietnam Army and his staff. General Giap earlier in his career planned and executed the battle at Dien Bien Phu which drove the French out of Vietnam in 1954. During the battle of Dien Bien Phu, General Giap stated he was willing to lose 10 men for every 1 enemy soldier killed, which indicated that a person's life in Vietnam was cheap. By the end of 1966, North Vietnam had suffered large causalities in manpower and supplies through the bombing of the North and the fighting in the South. They consider the war was at a stalemate. North Vietnam would need a major victory if they would continue on with the war. Thus the planning for what is known as the Tet Offensive began with General Giap (Commanding General of the North Vietnam Army) and his staff. The battle of Ka Saun (Jan. 21, 1968) was the prelude to the Tet Offensive of January 31, 1968. The battle at Ka Saun was similar to that of Dien Bien Phu in which the Vietnamese had surrounded their enemy and cut off all land routes for supplies and evacuation. Ka Saun had two objectives besides the obvious objective in defeating the Marines. 1. Diversionary tactic to draw American attention away from the cities of South Vietnam and more towards Khe Sanh. 2. Remind the people of South Vietnam of another battle that took place 14 years earlier at Dien Bien Phu, which would encourage South Vietnamese to join the VC in throwing out the Americans as they did with the French. The North Vietnamese Army fought the battle at Khe Sanh and the National Liberation Front (VC) fought the Tet Offensive, which attacked the cities and provinces throughout South Vietnam.
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Most people are not anti-American but anti-war. After 9/11 the world did feel for the US loss. What most Americans forget is that a number of countries have 9/11 everyday. After that tragic event it was time that the Americans joined the global family and have empathy for others but the world sees the American administration as being arrogant, that is why the Americans are disliked so much.
Will
Dakota: face it, you got your asses wupped by some little guys living in the jungle. The important thing that you seem to conveniently overlook is: why were you there fighting in the first place?
The lame excuse for it was: If we don't, the country would turn communist.
Wow ... who let the idiots run the asylum that day?! So what if a country decided to become 'communist' ... it's up to them and none of America's business. Certainly not something for them to go and die over ... or do you think it is?
Some situation in Chile where American CIA forces assassinated and overthrew the democratically elected socialist government and setup a viscious dictator in place (Pinochet).
Dakota: face it, you got your asses wupped by some little guys living in the jungle. The important thing that you seem to conveniently overlook is: why were you there fighting in the first place?
Actually, Simon, the US military did not lose one single battle of any significance in Vietnam, including Tet of 68. Vietnam fell 2 years after the last US troops left the country. As to why we were there, there are many good articles on the net about that. If you believe the South Vietnamese are better off today, I ask you to consider the "Boat People" of the late 70s that fled after the North Vietnamese Communists took it over.
Americans, and I imagine even the British, have never been told many truthes about Vietnam and sadly, most don't want to hear them.