The KEY WORD in Isaiah 44:25-26 is "Predictions" and the apostles NEVER made any predictions setting dates.

by Greybeard 13 Replies latest jw friends

  • Greybeard
    Greybeard

    Isaiah 44:25-26, “I am frustrating the signs of the empty talkers, And I am the One who makes diviners act like fools; The One confounding the wise men And turning their knowledge into foolishness; The One making the word of his servant come true And completely fulfilling the predictions of his messengers.” NWT The key word here is “predictions” not prophecies. How many predictions have Jehovah Witnesses made that have failed to come true?


    Quotes from Watchtower not found on JW.org proving they are false messengers


    1971 "Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom." (The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah; 1971; 2nd ed.; p. 216) The 20th century has came and gone.


    1972 "Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a 'prophet' of God. It is another thing to prove it. The only way that this can be done is to review the record. What does it show?" (Watchtower April 1, 1972, p. 197) The 20th century has came and gone. The record shows your words and many predictions did not come true.


    1989 "The apostle Paul was spearheading the Christian missionary activity. He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century." (Watchtower, Jan. 1, 1989, p. 12 [bound volume changed "20th century" to "day"])


    1972 "Does this admission of making mistakes stamp them [Watchtower] as false prophets? Not at all, for false prophets do not admit to making mistakes." (Watchtower, Nov. 1, 1972, p. 644) How true that statement is!


    “Let us now unmistakably identify Jehovah’s channel of communication for our day, that we may continue in his favor. ……..It is vital that we appreciate this fact and respond to the directions of the “slave” as we would to the voice of God, because it is His provision.” (Watchtower 57 6/15 p. 370 Overseers of Jehovah’s People (p7)


    April 1st p.19, “Of Course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a ‘prophet’ of God. It is another thing to prove it. The only way that this can be done is to review the record. What does it show?” Watchtower 1972


    The lie: ”Jehovah's Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus' second coming, have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect. Because of this, some have called them false prophets. Never in these instances, however, did they presume to originate predictions 'in the name of Jehovah.' Never did they say, 'These are the words of Jehovah.'" Awake! 1993 Mar 22 p.4 See date on previous quote please.


    Here is “Jehovahs prophetic word” proclaimed by Watchtower in print but not found on JW.org “From a purely human viewpoint, it could appear that these developments could hardly take place before the generation of 1914 disappears from the scene. But fulfillment of all the foretold events affecting the generation of 1914 does not depend on comparatively slow human action. Jehovah's prophetic WORD through Christ Jesus is: "This generation [of 1914] will by no means pass away until all things occur." (Luke 21:32) And Jehovah, who is the source of inspired and unfailing prophecy, will bring about the fulfillment of his Son's words in a relatively short time." (Watchtower, May 15, 1984 p6, bracketed "[of 1914]”


    Jehovah's prophetic WORD through Christ Jesus” is what? “Never in these instances, however, did they presume to originate predictions 'in the name of Jehovah.' Never did they say, 'These are the words of Jehovah.” How can you trust leaders who lie like this in print? Jehovah Witnesses, don’t you feel a little frustrated?


    Isaiah 44:25-26, “I am frustrating the signs of the empty talkers, And I am the One who makes diviners act like fools; The One confounding the wise men And turning their knowledge into foolishness; The One making the word of his servant come true And completely fulfilling the predictions of his messengers.” NWT The key word here is “predictions” not prophecies. How many predictions have Jehovah Witnesses made that have failed to come true? The 20th century is over! This is the 21 century!


    Matthew 23: 13-15 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you shut up the Kingdom of the heavens before men; for you yourselves do not go in, neither do you permit those on their way in to go in. “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you travel over sea and dry land to make one proselyte, and when he becomes one, you make him a subject for Ge·hen′na* twice as much so as yourselves.”


    According to Isaiah 44:25-26 and the words of Jesus Christ, making false predictions is not acceptable. Traversing land and sea closing the door to heaven is a sign of a false prophet according to Jesus own words. Again, The KEY WORD in Isaiah 44:25-26 is "Predictions" and the apostles NEVER made any predictions ever.


  • quincemyles
    quincemyles
    Thanks for this Greybeard. It is food at the proper time.
  • fukitol
    fukitol

    Excellent if you believe in the Bible. But for the more enlightened among us.....every miracle or purported divine proclamation in the OT is a lie, pure pious fraud.

    Oh sure, I really truly believe that the silly old fables and scary stories of ancient Jewish priests and scribes was real historical truth and divine messages. Just like I still believe Santa is real.

  • Greybeard
    Greybeard
    To fukitol: Jehovah Witnesses believe in the Bible so I use the Bible to prove a point. They are hung up on the word "prophet" saying they are not "inspired prophets." They cannot get around the word "predictions" and that is taken right out of their own Bible.
  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    Q.: How many predictions have Jehovah Witnesses made that have failed to come true?

    A.: ALL OF THEM.

    Good find, Greybeard! I hope your strategy with Bible-believing JWs works out, that quote is Dyn-o-mite!

  • prologos
    prologos
    thank you GB (Grey Beard) and thank you GB (Governing Body) too, for supplying these proofs of wrong.

    f: Excellent if you believe in the Bible. --or not, but want to prove that it, the foundation, and the results, = wt doctrines are wrong
    w.r.o.n.g. What Only Negligence* Generates or * Nefariousness
  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    The WTS leaders know they have free wheeling capabilities to the doctrines they create, so making up doctrines that are intentionally devised to enhance the proliferation of the literature they publish is their agenda , as well when those doctrines never come to their actuality, they can say well we are just imperfect men .

    How is that possible is due to the deep mental indoctrination of how they are chosen by god (Jehovah) to instill a psychosis of fear to sustain faithful devoted followers.

    Without that controlling fear complacent within the organization the WTS would have died off long ago and these men would have perceived by the general public of some quack religious charlatans.

  • Atlantis
    Atlantis

    Greybeard:

    Excellent! Thank you!

    WTUnderground!

  • Vanderhoven7
    Vanderhoven7

    Thanks Greybeard

  • Diogenesister
    Diogenesister
    Going to be bookmarking this for when they next call- thank you ol' greybearded one!

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