by darkspilver 104 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse
It is factually incorrect that WT verbally admitted to 23,000 in that database. They never confirmed that number. In fact, they said it was a lot lower.
So where did it come from? The long discredited bill Bowen, back around 2000, who probably just pulled it out of his arse.
it was denied subsequently by JR brown in 2002.
If anyone thinks that 4,000 a day (which is a little over a million a year) is draining money from WT, they are delusional.
That probably covers a DTE for a month.
One thing you all have a realize is that settling cases can be very beneficial for them. Why? Even if WT wins all their cases after a full trial, the victim can still take their story public and make books/movies without restriction because there is no confidentiality agreement.
Ever wonder why these people (like Conti and soon to be Lopez) have dropped off the map after a settlement? Because they cannot talk about it publicly. Another benefit is that it’s always cheaper to settle than go through an entire trial even if the WT were to win.
The problem is these greedy lawyers, who are the real profiteers. They want settlements so they can offset their costs and make a profit in the meantime. So it definitely hurts the victim if they want to give their story public exposure.
However, confidentiality also benefits the victim. They don’t have to disclose the consessions they had to make in order to recive the settlement dollars (every plantiff accepting a settlement has to concede something) so they don’t look bad in the eyes of the public, and it protects their information from being paraded around by the defendant(s) or other people who want to smear their reputation.
So in that sense, it’s a positive for both.
I don't know that plaintiffs/victims have to 'concede' anything other than to be silent. . .and not have it all out there. They don't have to admit guilt, but usually are restricted from disclosing any details of the settlement.
8 million publishers... "hey you guys, can you please donate your ice cream money of 50 cents this month, towards the "worldwide whatever work?'
8 million x 50 cents = 4 million a month!
Look what you can do with a little ice cream money!
Being “silent” itself is a concession. Another would be the plaintiff agrees that he can no longer recover damages on the basis of the suit.
This is why I say the lawyer, in this case, Zalkin, is the one who makes out the best.
Hes making a mint on the backs of these victims.
Mr flipper WT admitted that yes, they had a database pedophile list - however they claimed it was too technically involved and would be too difficult to give the court this information from their database files
Watchtower actually has no excuses now, in terms of getting the list up, since they purchased some very expensive scanners which is capable of scanning every document they have within a matter of days.
Bobby 2446 So where did it come from? The long discredited bill Bowen, back around 2000, who probably just pulled it out of his arse.
According to calculations made using the numbers available to the ARC in Australia and averaging it out per publisher etc the number quoted by Bowen ( if indeed it originated with him) is not too far off the Mark.
They don’t need excuses — the doc request was illegal, period.
And the ARC commenced 15 years after Bowen’s assertion. Additionally, that database only deals with the US — every branch maintains their own database.
So again, Bowen was making stuff up. He had no idea what, who, or how many — and neither does anyone else.
During the Padron Appeal it was made that there is about 1000 files from 2000 till October of 2017. Those are the files that are in dispute within that case.
Also, the watchtower was filing for a motion for summary judgement because of statute of limitations. In the depositions of Mr Lopez, he admitted that he knew he suffered from harm when he was in his teens which would mean that the statute of limitations would start to count down from his 18th birthday and which would mean he couldn't state a claim.
1000 isn’t anywhere near 23,000 - if I am understanding you correctly.
