red flag to a bull those carts can't resist ! (page 2)

cultBgone

Good for you, Possum. No more playing dead for you!! Many hugs for you and your daughter and family.

possum

cultBgone cheers used to "play possum out of fear"

Now

LevelThePlayingField

Sparrow down - you said it truthfully. I never thought about it much before until now. Yeah, there isn't much about what their actual reply might be, just offer the literature anyways.

nicolaou

Nice one possum, it's not always easy to keep calm is it? Can I pick you up on something though?

Post cult have learned very important lesson to actually respect (even if I don't agree) others viewpoints and their rights as fellow human beings.

Respecting others rights to believe is not the same as respecting the dangerous beliefs themselves. You clearly don't respect the belief that their should be two witnesses to abuse before allegations are reported to the authorities and nor should you.

Individuals who hold dangerous beliefs shouldn't be afforded the shelter that comes with the sentiment; "all viewpoints and beliefs should be respected".

Respect is a valuable commodity, it should be earned, not dished out unconditionally.

That's my belief anyway.

possum

nicolau

Individuals who hold dangerous beliefs shouldn't be afforded the shelter that comes with the sentiment; "all viewpoints and beliefs should be respected".

Your right!

I think I was trying to say challenge the belief not the person. Respect is a valuable commodity, it should be earned, not dished out unconditionally.

galaxie

Hi possum..I too had a trolley/cart conversation a couple of days ago. I approached the subject of the gb member (Jackson ) at the Australian enquiry into child abuse issues, the 'brother' denied all knowledge of it. My point was concerning his statement (jackson) that it would be presumptuous of him to claim the gb /faithful slave was gods channel of communication for the 'domestics'. Now at this point the brother starts to lecture me about being humble!! This retort is his way of gaining the upper hand by intimating that my 'proud attitude' ie asking pertinent questions is not to his liking. I find this immediately sets up a tension and frustration in the conversation because he has formed a barrier . He than goes on with an illustration about a ship steering in the fog and veering of course but eventually as the fog clears the ship gets back on course Aaaaaaaargh its really hard to keep your composure. I then asked him if there was any new light concerning the length of 'creative days' he stumbled about mumbling and said " I'll have to get back to you on that"?meanwhile he offers me a bible teach book which I did accept, not to be discourteous . Trolley/cart conversations can be a hit or miss affair and most times I feel I leave them with a good helping of ttatt and a seed planted which may one day see them free of the mind shackles which ensnare them.

Best wishes.

punkofnice

Told me I need to go on JW.org, talk to elders and read the bible

In other words, 'this is not of interest to us. We are right and you are wrong by default. We are happy with our delusion. don't rock the boat. We have no idea what we believe or what's actually happening and quite frankly, we don't care!'

Driving Force

Possum

Post cult have learned very important lesson to actually respect (even if I don't agree) others viewpoints and their rights as fellow human beings.

I share your sentiments, I am also having to learn to accept others viewpoint, because as a JW everybody is wrong who do not accept the JW stance.

The Searcher

"Told me I need to go on JWdotORG, talk to elders, and read the bible" -

"J.W.'s are now programmed to direct people to the Bible via our Corporation's web site, our iPads, or our trolley. We cannot use our mouths to give people scriptural answers now, because the truth has become the sole possession of our Guardians Of Doctrine (G.O.D. - aka The Magnificent 7) and they can change the T & C's of the truth electronically - as and when it suits them, but thank you for your interest."

Vidiot

It's gonna get to the point where trolly work - regardless of how easy it is compared to door-to-door - will be avioded by all but the most hardcore JW loyalists.

red flag to a bull those carts can't resist !

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