@ sir82:
He has been in the org since the 50's.
So I had a conversation with an older brother...
by My Name is of No Consequence 23 Replies latest jw experiences
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Beth Sarim
**He not only wasn't ever supposed to die, he wasn't ever supposed to grow old. He should have jumped right from middle age into eternal youth in a paradise.**
Kind of makes a person wonder, hey!!! I mean how many other countless JWs who have been in the Borg 50 plus years, never expecting to grow old. Jumping from middle age into eternal youth in paradise with absolute health.
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Giordano
While I feel for the old one's still in.......... I also need to remind myself that their collective belief was based on billions dying horribly at Armageddon before this small select group got their eternal life in a paradise.
Funny but I never heard a believing witness say that it was a barbaric crime against humanity.
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antes8080
I have had the same conversation with a old C.O. His wife had died he was in bad health no retirement income no kids to visit him no gran kids to play with. He basically told me to start saving for the future and have a family. Broken promises from a organization that milks you to death. -
steve2
Let's not forget those who clung to the hope that 1914 was to be the end and then, later, 1925.
Truckloads upon truckloads of ageing generations of believers have died old, frail and plain tired. And they believed they would not grow old and die.
Oh, whilst at it, what about the Millerite expectations from 1844?
And then there were the Anabaptists from a couple of hundred years before that who expected the end in their lifetime.
You could be forgiven for believing end-times religions milk the human desperation for certainty of hope - which includes some form of bieng miraculous "saved" whilst the unsaved are punished and perish.
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prologos
their collective belief was based on billions dying horribly at Armageddon before this small select group got their eternal life in a paradise. that express feeling was reserved toward what jws. saw as opposers, recalcitrant house holders. I do not think any witness cherished the hope to have to clean up for 7 years the stinking mess on voluntary burial detail.
yeah, and the heard and preached the message: "you will not die";--- have you read that line somewhere before?
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James Mixon
You can see it in their eyes, hopelessness. The folks that came in around
the same time as me now in their 60's and 70's are thinking, I wasted my whole life
in this organization. When I ask them how is it going, well I'm still working. Paradise is
right around the corner, when are you coming back? Well I'm taking a chance because
I believe paradise is for off and I will be dead, so I will see you there.
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Cold Steel
I suppose when the old gent passes, he will be pleasantly surprised if all those folks who have near death experiences are right. If the atheists are right, I guess he won't. If the WTBTS is right, heaven help us all! Still, it could be worse. If the Hindus are right, I'm going to have quite a few cow gods trying to look me up to exact revenge for all those barbecued beef ribs I put away when I was younger. Think of it. Cows running the universe with hosts of singing french fries giving them praise in the heavens.
I had a now deceased friend tell me, "What doesn't hurt doesn't work, and what works, hurts!"
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baldeagle
During the 1970’s, 80’s, & 90’s….whenever I would try to discreetly engage others in a group regarding a recent WT study article or assembly talk adjustments that sounded absurd, we all remember peoples reaction. Be careful Bro.…… “You are talking against Christ’s anointed brothers.” Or my favorite…… “Why if I didn’t know better you sound almost like an apostate.”
Most JW’s were so confident of the special connection their leaders had with the Almighty. Do not suggest that you were ever questioning them!! It may sound mean but I really feel zero sympathy for these older JW’s and their delusions of grandeur. Many were smug & haughty eagerly expecting the rest of mankind to be destroyed.
Remember their famous go to scripture, “For whatever a man is sowing, this he will also reap.”
Oh and by the way remember their attitude and boastful feelings decades ago:
WT September 15, 1971 p. 564 par. 22 Set Apart from the World
22 All who seek a place in the redeemed society of mankind thereby come into association with the happiest people on earth—Jehovah’s witnesses. These are the only people who know for a certainty where they are going.
WT March 1, 1988 p. 17 My Life in Jehovah’s Spirit-Directed Organization
Indeed, in every country, Jehovah’s people are the best and the happiest!
WT March 1, 1989 p. 3 How to Identify True Ministers of God
However, true ministers of God not only have duties and requirements but also have many privileges. In fact, as a group, they are the most privileged, the most successful, and by far the happiest group on earth today, as you will see in the next article.
So be it then, many JW’s who never remotely anticipated the year 2016 arriving have gotten old and will die in this old system. How happy are they now?
As far as I’m concerned they are getting exactly what they deserve.
And remember all this crap and self-importance just continues.....after all it’s the..... ”The Best Life Ever.”
