Doesn`t Jesus ,Michael ,also have the name Immanuel ? Isa.7:14 ,Matt.1:23
Praying in the name of Michael the archangel instead of Jesus
by krismalone 30 Replies latest watchtower bible
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zeb
I was to do a reading and wished to use a different bible... this, was not approved of.
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MrRoboto
FedUpJW - good point, care to elaborate? ive been wondering for a while what exactly would happen if someone prayed using "yahweh" instead. have you seen it?
ive seen where one bro consistently prays to "our father" in "jesus name", no jehovah. doesnt seem like anyone noticed. he doesn't pray alot tho, maybe it would be more obvious if it was more often.
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Drearyweather
No doubt he would be talked to but by teaching that Jesus is Michael the archangel, the JW's really cannot technically do anything about it.
Krismalone,
Going by your logic, why don't we call a mango as Mangifera indica? Or why don’t we use Solanum lycopersicum instead of a tomato? Both are scientific names and are used in botanical science.
Imagine if Masterchef or any other show starts using these scientific names instead of common names, would they make any sense for us even if they are technically correct? Your science teacher may use the scientific name during lab practical; but in your kitchen you use the name tomato. Each name has its own usage and purpose and is used where it is appropriate and fit.
Similarly, the name Jesus Christ is used in prayer to address his role as a redeemer and saviour, whereas the name Michael the archangel has a different purpose as his role as a prince and a warrior and is not used by believers while praying.
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Anders Andersen
Mike - The Savior. Sounds great !!
He can do some nice tricks. Must be Magic Mike!
Similarly, the name Jesus Christ is used in prayer to address his role as a redeemer and saviour, whereas the name Michael the archangel has a different purpose as his role as a prince and a warrior and is not used by believers while praying
Then why do Watchtower and JW believers often (or even mostly?) use the name Jesus when discussing his enthronement, or who supposedly kicked out Satan from the heavens, or who is gonna whoop the infidels' asses in Armageddon?
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venus
Very powerful point you made. Problem is with Bible. If you take every verse as inspired, then you are in trouble because you will find verses negating each other.
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smiddy3
Nobody wants to comment on Jesus name being Immanuel ? In the christian greek Scriptures ?
It was prophesied in Isaiah that his name was to be called Immanuel not Jesus.Isa.7:14 , Mt .1 :23 ,and Mathew corroborates that scripture.
Do you or I believe what the Scriptures actually say or are we to believe what interpretations are given us by imperfect human beings with their own agendas telling us what we should believe.
It begs the question just how much of the Bible has been manipulated altered to fit the Agenda of those with something to gain from having a translation that fits their pre-conceived agenda.
The NWT of the Bible is a prime example of that placing the name Jehovah in the Christian Greek Scriptures when their own publication K.I. a word for word translation of the C,G,S does not contain the Tetragrammaton anywhere in the N.T.
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Drearyweather
Then why do Watchtower and JW believers often (or even mostly?) use the name Jesus when discussing his enthronement, or who supposedly kicked out Satan from the heavens, or who is gonna whoop the infidels' asses in Armageddon?
Because Michael as the heavenly name of Jesus was never meant to be used in worship, prayer, preaching or teaching. In 2 Thess. 1:7,8 Paul himself uses the name Jesus while telling about the time when he comes for destroying the wicked. For believers, the role of Michael as a heavenly warrior who brings destruction is still to be seen in the future, whereas his role as Jesus the Christ and the redeemer has already been displayed during his time on earth. So Jesus is the more preferred name for believers as Jesus as the Christ has impacted them the most than his role as Michael the Archangel.
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Drearyweather
Nobody wants to comment on Jesus name being Immanuel ? In the christian greek Scriptures ?
The Messiah is identified in the NT by the name Jesus. Even the gospel writers and other disciples in their letters used the name Jesus. This implies that all other names given or ascribed to Jesus were prophetic-title names, mostly used in prophecies to denote the type of work that Messiah would do or his qualities, but not to be used in personal, day-to-day dealings.
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WhatshallIcallmyself
Just imagine that a modern work of fiction had as many plot holes and contradictions amongst the main characters...
Would it go straight into the editor's bin?