What bothers/worries you most about the war ?

by m0nk3y 41 Replies latest social current

  • Xander
    Xander
    The Texas war for independence, Mexican American War, Boxer Rebellion, Spanish American War, any number of little actions in Latin America form the late 1800's through Panama, Chile, Nicaragua, Haiti, and likely a few other places. I'm quite sure that most Native Americans didn't think of themselves as the aggressor through most of the 19th Century.

    Well, as a case by case basis:

    Texas War of Independance? huh? US wasn't involved there at all? Texas declared independance, we recognized it.

    Mexican-American War was just an extension of the Texas war of independance. US annexed Texas (granted, an aggressive act), but Texas approved the annexation. Mexico didn't, and invaded.

    Boxer rebellion. Huh? What the hell are you talking about? A certain cultlike group of native chinese decide to try and execute everyone in the country not pure-blood chinese (including US diplomats). Sounds like defensive action to me!

    Spanish-American War. Sorry, but remember the Maine? Everybody then sure did!

    As far as the Native Americans go, the only argument I could make there was that there was no single, recognized, sovereign nation that was being violated in an act of American agression like the current situation. Not that it makes what happened excusable (indeed, I maintain to this day the world would be a better place if the colonists had stopped at the Appalachians), but it IS a different situation.

  • Xander
    Xander
    has caused a once united country to be divided

    And, which country would that be? Last I checked, the US has never, EVER been 'united' by ANYTHING. (Which actually serves as a pretty good argument for a confederate system of states rather than a central federal government)

  • wednesday
    wednesday
    Saddam is a terrorist, and the United States is going to remove him from power, pure and simple.

    I deeply regret the loss of any life other than the above mentioned person, and those who help him. But to continue to ignore this terrorist and hope he will go away is a crazy way to live.

    It was with great sadness i listened to Pres. Bush Monday night. . It's a dirty job, but someone got to do it. All our lives were forever changed 9/11 and will never be the same.

    I have family involved in this war, and have much to lose. Americans will not be dancing in the streets over the death of innocent people.

    No one is enjoying this..It's just a dirty job that has to be done.

    .

  • freeman
    freeman

    The thing that upsets me the most is the behavior of some of the permanent members of the UN security counsel, in particular the French. IMHO the French wasted this last opportunity to show a united world commitment to disarming this despot.

    Instead of taking the high road and doing the right thing, France saw the opportunity to take the US down a notch with a sucker punch. Yes, they torpedoed the efforts of the Bush administration in their efforts to build a large, visible, and united front with UN backing to pressure Iraq to disarm under the threat of overwhelming force. And at the risk of total inhalation of his regime and faced with overwhelming resolve and might, Saddam just may have capitulated. But now we will never know.

    Oh yes France won a decisive victory alright, they managed to sting the US real good, much like a flea biting a large dog. Yes they managed to embarrass this administration, but that is the full extent of their victory.

    But what has this French victory really cost? More then most realize I suspect. The French are just now realizing some of these costs to themselves and they are indeed worried, and with good reason. Now the French realizing what an enormous price they will likely pay are backpedaling rather quickly. The French have come to realize that without having fired a shot in this war they will loose billions when it is prosecuted.

    France now hypocritically offers to let the US and its allies use French airspace in support of a war they said they were absolutely opposed to only hours before . How transparent their motives are, and how pathetic is their gesture.

    In reality will the efforts of the French do anything to prevent war? Hardly. War is all but inevitable now, and the French have done nothing to prevent it, and as I have stated perhaps even made it more likely.

    The US will now proceed with 30 + other nations to once and for all disarm and remove the butcher of Baghdad. That will happen, and the victory is a sure bet, but at what price. God I hate to even think about it.

    Could we have done this through peaceful methods? Perhaps, but now thanks in part to the actions of France at the eleventh hour, we will never know will we?

    Freeman

  • amac
    amac

    I am bothered by the idea that there will be some average Joe civilian over there who will lose his 5 year old son to a war that he has nothing to do with. That is what I can relate to and makes my heart very heavy.

    I am also bothered by the fact that nothing good can come out of this war. Do Americans think this will bring an end to terrorism? I hate terrorism and I want it to go away as bad as anyone. All this war is going to do is increase terrorism in the US, because that is the only way they will be able to fight back.

  • reubenfine
    reubenfine

    I'm afraid gas will go up. Oh yeah, I forgot. This isn't about oil.

  • Scarlet
    Scarlet

    I am all for the War and know we will win the only thing that sadends me is to see my good friend worried about his family that lives in Saudi Arabia. I know he is all for America winning the war against terrorism but to see him upset about his family there makes me cry. I feel bad for all the innocent people that have to live amongest the war. I have heard horror stories from people that lived there during the last one.

  • TR
    TR

    Great points, Freeman. I agree.

    War truly is hell, and I wish that it didn't have to come to this. France is going to lose BIG TIME over this.

    My daughter was planning a trip to France and Italy this summer. Not going to happen. Even if there were no war, France played dirty, and I will henceforth make damn sure nothing I buy comes from France.(Are there things made in France?)

    I hope that millions will do the same.

    Well, another blow for the airline/travel industry.

    TR

  • berten
    berten

    >I will henceforth make damn sure nothing I buy comes from France.(Are there things made in France?)

    French fries which actually are not French at all,they are a Belgian recipe but I guess

    "French Fries" rolls easier off the tongue than "Belgian Fries" (Too many syllables)...

  • dubla
    dubla

    "French Fries" rolls easier off the tongue than "Belgian Fries" (Too many syllables)...

    well, from now on, its "freedom fries", and "freedom toast".

    aa

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