by slimboyfat 173 Replies latest social current
Billions of doses administered and now in many countries the leading cause of death is "Unknown" and the big jump in excess deaths does not get a mention in the mainstream media. Here in Australia our ambulance systems are suffering long delays because of extra load, would be interesting to know if this is because of cardiac issues. The truth will come out in time.
RB.
1. There is no evidence to suggest the leading cause of death in any country is " Unknown ".
2. You have a new pathogen to humanity that is disappropriately killing the elderly, people with kidney disease, respiratory problems, cardiovascular disease, diabetics.
Now some scientists believe that nearly 50 % of the population has been infected with covid. Now we are seeing a spike in deaths with people suffering from kidney disease, respiratory problems, cardiovascular disease, diabetics.
Must be the vaccine ? You are really on to something Kreskin.
It can't be the disease that has killed millions of people.
Businesses permanently closed, good people fired from their jobs with the economic ripples still being felt…human rights violations, theft of private funds aka, Canadian Truckers.. the largest transfer of wealth to Corporations in history, Utra-wealthy groups like BlackRock overpaying for Real Estate and perhaps ensuring that an entire generation of young people will be renters … and the “Winter of Death” for the un-vaxxed..AND Big Tech in bed with Big Pharma and the Government to decide what constitutes “mis-information” with their own “Fact-Checkers” in a never before witnessed attack on free speech coupled with the all out effort to compel speech… They even changed the definition of “Vaccine.”
Releasing a cloud of irrelevant ink when backed into a corner. It is almost you could be writing " Reasoning from the scriptures " for the WTS.
I don't care about the politics of any of this. The science is what fascinates me.
He is a heart doctor and he is talking about heart problems and their causes, so how is his expertise not relevant? If peer review and relevant qualifications are the standard, why are you relying on a piece that was not peer reviewed by someone who is not a heart specialist to discredit a peer reviewed article by a heart specialist?
Like I said, I am not qualified to judge the scientific and medical arguments. But simply as someone who has been paying attention to what has been said by the authorities, there are significant grounds for concern. First we were told the vaccines would stop us catching the virus. That was wrong. We were told the virus would stop us spreading the virus. That was wrong. We were told we would reach herd immunity if everyone took the virus. That was wrong too. It is entirely reasonable, as a layperson, to draw the sensible conclusion that the authorises are not are certain in their knowledge of these vaccines as their pronouncements, and frankly downright coercion over the past two years, would have led us to believe.
It doesn’t stop there either. They said the RNA would dissipate and not spread in the body. That seems to be in doubt now. They said there was no possible harm for pregnant mothers. Now there’s doubt about that too. Some authorities are saying everyone should get the vaccines, even babies. Other countries are saying it’s too risky for children, or in some places, even people under 50 years old. Given all the things the authorities have got wrong about the vaccines in the past couple of years, shouldn’t there be a degree of humility, at least, and a little less name calling of anyone with concerns as “conspiracy theorists”, or the other favourite, “not following the science”. I like the popular retort to that claim about “following the science” - “if you can question it, that’s science, if you can’t question it, that’s propaganda”.
Somebody posted a rebuttal video above from the doctor with the big hair. I had actually already watched that video a while ago, but I watched it again yesterday. Maybe he is right about some things and maybe some of his criticisms are valid. But honestly his attitude stinks. He treats anyone who disagrees with his own view as compete imbeciles or somehow fired by an inexplicable passion for spreading “misinformation”. It’s a far cry from Dr Mahotra who says to treat others with other views with respect and with patience, because he has been in their shoes, and he himself dismissed concerns about the vaccine at one time. To top it all off, in the above mentioned rebuttal video, the doctor, wanting to emphasise how “dangerous” skepticism is, makes the bold statement that “omicron variant is equally as deadly!” That seems to be an ultra position that goes above and beyond the mainstream view that omicron is a milder variant. So is the debunker himself now guilty of lies and misinformation? Where does this stop?
How about we all just slow down and allow a reasonable discussion about this without name calling, ad hominem and so on. My growing suspicion is that the vaccines were rushed out too quickly and a few companies have made a fortune as a result. There is nowhere near enough research into the side effects. I’ve had 4 vaccines now and not once has anyone asked me about any side effects. I know people who have had strokes, an eye bleed, and various other apparent complications. I know a couple of people who have died shortly after the vaccine. I have not heard of any of these being recorded as even possible side effects of the vaccines. Why is that? If possible side effects are not even being recorded and collated, how are we ever going to know? It’s almost as if the drug companies already know, or suspect, higher than anticipated adverse effects, so they don’t want to collect the data and they obstruct others who want to collect the data. That’s not a conspiracy theory, unfortunately, that’s just how capitalism works.
Do you know the case of Pfizer not being allowed to test a new drug on children in the Us so they decided to test the drug on children in Africa instead where the regulations are not as strong. Hundreds of children died as a result. They paid expensive lawyers to fry and cover it up but not even the lawyers could entirely cover it up in the case. That’s the kind of company we are dealing with here. So don’t tell me it’s a crazy conspiracy that they would deliberately sell drugs that harm people, they do it every day. The question is not whether they would do it, because we know they would, the questions is simply whether they have done it in this case of the vaccines or not.
He is a heart doctor and he is talking about heart problems and their causes, so how is his expertise not relevant?
His expertise is very relevant, but it's just not broad enough for the nature of the claim. It's one thing for a cardiologist to notice an uptick in myocarditis and suspect that a recent vaccination is the cause. But correlation is not causation and making a water tight case for the latter gets into other disciplines. That's why these articles are usually authored by several individuals from various fields
Again, I'm not saying he's wrong, but there is going to be some pushback.
Riley do you know where we can access that information? The drug companies are not sharing the information about frequency of adverse events. There is widespread suspicion they are not even gathering the information in a rigorous was, because it is against their interest to do so. I’ve had four vaccines and I’ve never been asked or informed about reported adverse events. Have you? I know people who have had strokes, eye bleeds, and a couple who have died. As far as I know none of these have been recorded even as possible adverse reactions. How can we have accurate data if the it is not being gathered?
Countries such as Denmark that do their own checks and record data on reactions are the same countries that are withdrawing the vaccines.
I have a brother in law who is the Dean of Cardiac medicine at the University of Calgary/Foothills hospital, so I think he knows what he is talking about. I would post a link but I don't want the tinfoil hat club here trying to email him and tell him he doesn't know what he is doing. You people embarrass me.
1. Myocarditis after vaccine is very very rare.
2. Myocarditis after vaccine the vast vast majority of time clears its self up without any medicine intervention.
My third and I can not stress how important this is.
3. You are eight fold more likely to experience myocarditis from an actual Covid infection and have a much more severe case ( pericarditis ) than the vaccine. Covid does horrible things to your heart at all ages.
Seriously, it is time to start listening to the 99 % instead of the 1%. You are not special.
It is almost you could be writing " Reasoning from the scriptures " for the WTS.
When backed into a corner and no longer able to present a valid argument using facts leftists resort to personal attacks. Funny how some on this site will resort to the similar "You sound like a WT writer," retort under the same conditions.
Cults are driven by two factors.
1. Persecution delusion
2. Delusional narcissism
Jehovah witnesses and anti vaxxers are pretty much just an Adam Sander movie. Move some pieces around but you are basically getting the same story over and over. I stand by my assessment .
Seriously, it is time to start listening to the 99 % instead of the 1%. You are not special.
I strongly disagree. Your premise is that the majority are (or "is" if viewing majority as a singular entity) right. I disagree with that premise.
I went to the same public schools as hundreds of others in my area. 99% of them cannot manipulate simple fractions; for example, they can't figure what 2/3 of 1/6 is. 99% of them have no clue as to what a transitive verb is and what the difference between transitive and intransitive verbs is. They have no clue as to the fact that a nominative preceding a gerund should be in the possessive case and why. They don't know the difference between the active voice and the passive voice. That's all seventh grade stuff. Most don't even know the difference between adjectives and adverbs. They don't know the difference between the objective case and the nominative case. They are totally ignorant of simple trigonometry; "sin of 45deg" is totally meaningless to them even though they were introduced to trig in school. They cannot do simple algebra even though they were taught it. They are bad at logic, reasoning, writing, comprehension, etc.
There are some who are "special." The majority just go with the flow. I've seen it in many different areas of life for decades. I've found that often it's the minority who are right.
I will never "listen" to the majority in that I will automatically consider the majority to be right. I will "listen" to what the majority say in that I will consider the majority viewpoint, but I will also consider what the minority say and consider it equally.
I have a brother in law who is the Dean of Cardiac medicine at the University of Calgary/Foothills hospital, so I think he knows what he is talking about.
He doesn't necessarily 'know what he is talking about' in this specific matter.
