by Indoubtbigtime 38 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Eyeslice, it is hard to prove if any vaccines have helped at all.
The principle to introduce a weak part of a pathogen for the body to study and build a defence is good.
But covid19 has never been purified and isolated so these cv19 injections are not vaccines by definition. They are an experimental medication. They are still in trial stage the trail ends for the first ones May 2023.
Its looking like the trail results will show they are not safe or effective and they will be withdrawn.
But covid19 has never been purified and isolated
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Do you know how many papers have been published on the isolation and resultant WGS data?
But covid19 has never been purified and isolated
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Do you know how many papers have been published on the isolation and resultant WGS data?
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Yes TD I do know how many have been published and I stand by the statement that many experts know is true that this novel so called virus has never ever been purified and isolated
if you think there has been a break through recently and they have finally purified and isolated it then please post it here
Okay
The virus responsible for Covid-19 was identified as a subspecies of Sarbecovirus, and designated as SARS-CoV-2 in late 2019
Reagent isolation and WGS characterization in the first American patient happened in January of 2020:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7239045/pdf/nihpp-2020.03.02.972935.pdf
Isolation in the first Australian patient happened at or around February:https://www.mja.com.au/system/files/issues/212_10/mja250569.pdf
Epidemiology of first European cases:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7068164/
Canada:
South Korea:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7045880/pdf/ophrp-11-3.pdf
Brazil:
https://www.scielo.br/j/mioc/a/3hzYZ4W4m4bHGTNX8fJS65p/?format=pdf&lang=en
Egypt:
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.11.04.368431v3.full.pdf
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Genetic sequence, Morphology, Origin, Evolution and Diagnosis are described in a little more detail here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7180649/pdf/10096_2020_Article_3899.pdf
And here:
https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/10.1146/annurev-virology-110615-042301
And here:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S156713481830128X
And here:
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0247524
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The possibility of targeting the spike protein in a vaccine was discussed from about mid 2020 onward:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7151553/
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2020.576622/full
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41401-020-0485-4
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006291X04021588?via%3Dihub
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0065352719300284
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abe1502
None of this discussion would have been possible if the virus had not been isolated. Frankly I'm bewildered at how some people (Not necessarily you) can criticize mRNA vaccines while simultaneously claiming the virus has not been isolated. The former is just not possible without the latter.
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You appear to be repeating claims from Facebook and other social media platforms.
Although I've worked in a med lab, I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "purified" vis-à-vis the virus itself. Are you perhaps referring to sample purity? Or maybe to Phenol-chloroform-RNA purification (Or something similar) as a testing method?
At any rate, the claim that the virus has never been identified can still be found on podcasts, Youtube, BitChute and other mediums that don't have to pass any scientific standard or scrutiny.
It appears to originate with a gentleman named David Crowe, a telecommunications consultant, environmentalist, and critic of science and medicine.
His claim has been repeatedly refuted:
https://fullfact.org/health/Covid-isolated-virus/
And here:
And here:
And here:
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9847920299
And here:
https://fullfact.org/online/coronavirus-misinformation-lies-vaccine-deaths/
And here:
https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-graphics-unicef/
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If you have a peer reviewed article or study, (Or some other source where the authors are legally responsible for any misinformation they publish) I would be interested in reading it.
I now believe them to be false prophets
There is no such thing as a 'true prophet'. There are only genuinely delusional prophets and conman prophets.
There has never ever been an image from a spectrum microscope of covid19 like there is with other viruses
we have only ever seen computer generated images
cv19 has never been purified and isolated and an image taken of it
I’m interested in colloidal silver as it’s the most anti viral substance know to the scientific community.
as of the start of 2023 no known pathogen can survive in the presence of colloidal silver in a laboratory environment.
in a Petri dish no known pathogen can survive in the presence of CS. Even the antibiotic resistant super bugs.
the experiment hasn’t been done with covid19 because they can’t put it in a Petri dish until they can purified and isolated. It still hasn’t been done.
but my guess is that it couldn’t survive in the presence of colloidal silver if they can ever have it purified and isolated in a Petri dish
Indoubtbigtime
cv19 has never been purified and isolated and an image taken of it
You're not citing a source, but this sounds a lot like David Crowe's nonsense.
The claim that SARS-CoV-2 has not been "purified and isolated" is a misapplication of Koch's Postulates.
Robert Koch was a 19th century German doctor and scientist who proved that Anthrax, Cholera and Tuberculosis were each caused by a specific bacteria. The four rules he followed are known today Koch's Postulates.
(The original paper can be found here)
https://edoc.rki.de/handle/176904/5139
Although Koch was a brilliant man, he lived and died more than a century ago and a lot has changed since then. (Like the discovery of viruses as the cause of many diseases....)
Here is a more pointed refutation of Crowe's nonsense:
Here is another:
The idea that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has never been photographed is more nonsense. I do agree that pictures which are colorized and enhanced for the general public look artificial, but there are plenty of unvarnished photographs:
Here's a good example:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-73162-5
Here's one of the images from the article:
The late David Crowe's contention was not simply that Covid19 is a hoax, but that the entire field of virology is fraudulent.
Is that the position you're taking here? That viruses don't actually exist at all?
in a Petri dish no known pathogen can survive in the presence of CS. Even the antibiotic resistant super bugs
Many metals have antimicrobial properties. They are poisons. Life has evolved a dizzying set of adaptations to neutralize these metals. In microbial examples they have even evolved to weaponize metals like arsenic. Common metals like copper, arsenic and silver have been successfully used in medicine and industry due to this toxic character. However, its self-evident that the use of toxic metals must be done with caution and knowledge of long-term effects to the organism and the environment. Silver for example can and is used successfully for topical antibiotic effect. It is used in sterilization of the air on the space station for example. However bacterial resistance is eventually inevitable in a closed loop such as on the station.
Chapter 1: Microbial contamination in space (uclouvain.be)
Silver is an element that has no biological use in humans. It can be tolerated in low concentrations and is generally excreted from the body through urine. It has not been shown to be effective for any health benefit when ingested. Prolonged exposure results in a slew of medical conditions including enlarged heart, neurological and brain disfunction.
Oral toxicity of silver ions, silver nanoparticles and colloidal silver – A review - ScienceDirect
There is no regulation of dosage or potency in the psuedo-pharmaceutical market.
Make of that what you will.
Also, FYI the Russian and Chinese vaccines use the older technology of an inactivated virus to trigger an immune response. These have shown much lower efficacy. China is now seeking the technology to use the new mRNA approach.
