Blondie- This must be a new thing for them to be a pest to DA 'd and Df'd ones.
Inviting People to Meetings
by HereIam60 15 Replies latest jw experiences
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LongHairGal
UGOT2BEKIDDINGME1:
Yes, there is a very obvious class system in the Jehovah’s Witnesses.
You are correct that if you are not part of the ‘upper class’ or ‘In crowd’, you are treated badly. If you’re not pioneering but have a job, forget about it. They will hate you.. [I want to stress here because I haven’t seen anybody comment on this in all my years on the forum:: but I observed there was a definite BIAS against people who were converts and not born-in Witnesses.]
Witnesses purport to want converts but I saw this attitude there when I was new... Don’t know if it still is because I got Out ages ago. Maybe they’re less ‘picky’ now that they are losing people…They were so arrogant with pushing people out - now they can’t get anybody to stay!🤣 Serves them right.
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LV101
Blondie: They will hate you.. [I want to stress here because I haven’t seen anybody comment on this in all my years on the forum:: but I observed there was a definite BIAS against people who were converts and not born-in Witnesses.]
Blondie you are 100% correct. Very biased against converts and assume one is or was a degenerate before being hand chosen to hang with their group. What a bunch of judgmental hypocrites.
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LongHairGal
LV101:
🤣That was me who said that about Witness bias against converts!
Yes, the prim “Stepford-type wives”, etc. that I encountered decades ago (who seemed in a 1950s timewarp) - all thought that about new converts, particularly if you were younger like I was.. Plus add the fact I wouldn’t heed older Witnesses’ suggestions to quit my job to pioneer and clean toilets - horrors! I would only be accepted if they could control my life. So I was on the shit list early on.
But, I can laugh about all this now all these years later.
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blondie
LV101, "but I observed there was a definite BIAS against people who were converts and not born-in Witnesses." 1) I have seen biases about born-in and converts. One is in the appointment of MS and elders, those born-in are considered more spiritual than converts and will be selected sooner, having learned WTS teachings from baby on up 2) if you have a non-jw father (supposed the spiritual head even not jw) and mother has to teach you, you are considered as spiritually contaminated, even after you choose to be baptized as a jw. I have seen many cases of both as I grew up up in several congregations. It is all across the organization so it has to originate from the "top."
"In addition, the congregation elders arrange to visit and offer help to disfellowshipped ones in the congregation territory who may have left their past practice of sin." (My husband was an elder and the elders were directed to do this after the circuit overseer's visit and before the next circuit overseer visit and report to him what happened then. Many elders made a show of this, "driving by" and determining from the street that the person is not-home. My husband would tell me some days that he and long-time elder had done this. My husband was not a jw growing up and thought this was bizarre).
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blondie
Ugotbekiddingme (sp) This must be a new thing for them to be a pest to DA 'd and Df'd ones. I hope I didn't say the WTS was encouraging their members to contact DA'd people. Those are people who have effectively, chosen themselves to separate themselves from the WTS and/or spoke out publicly against the WTS and are considered "apostates." If I remember, only elders can contact disassociated jws under special circumstances. As to df'd some accounts I have seen about the change about contacting jws, it might have included df'd ones, but only in the spiritual context, inviting to come back to the WTS, but not associating socially. I will check on that. But quite a few ex-jws or "inactive" like me, have been contacted by phone (cell), email, snail mail and perhaps with texts. A difference, before elders were directed by the WTS to make an annual call (of course unscheduled) on inactive and even df'd jws. There must be a link on here to an original post discussing this change.