Where are you going when you die?

by Mystery 52 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • LyinEyes
    LyinEyes

    Jesika , great points........I agree with being the best we can be, and after we die we will be safe, in God's hands.

    Big Tex,,,,,,,,when my mom died,,,,,,, it was just like you said, I felt the same thing, just staring at her,not understanding how just a few hours she was alive, breathing, there. Then she wasnt. In a matter of minutes it takes the brain to die, she was forever gone from me. It stumped me to know you can live ,your heart beat , your lungs breathing for years and in a matter on minutes it is all gone, all forgotten. I had literal trouble accepting my mom's body was dead, I actually kept thinking i saw her hand move or I saw her breathing, she looked like she was sleeping , like so many times I had seen her sleep. It really took my brain time to accept that the shell was there but she was not.

    It makes me wonder , even back as a jw , if life is snuffed out that quick, i mean the spirit of a person. It seems sad to me if they are aware that we are suffering and crying for them and they can't comfort us. I would like to live on after death, but would be sad to think I couldnt comfort my kids and let them know I was alive in heaven or wherever.

    My youngest son, always asks me on a weekly basis , where we go when we die. He asked the other day if the New World was still true.

    I just tell him when we die Jesus takes care of us, maybe we go to heaven for awhile and wait for our family there, and visit with the ones who died before us. Maybe we get to be with Jesus and talk to him, maybe we get to fly around and watch the ones living on earth........trying to say things a child would understand. I even said there could be a New World a paradise, I hope so, that would be nice,,,,,,,,,we will just have to see. I told him that if I die, when a leave falls to the ground that will be me......and that will be my way of telling him I am thinking of him......... I dont mean to make up stuff, but if I can I will make that leaf fall if I can possibly let my child know I am there.

    He really needed to know that I would be happy someplace because he told me if I died, he wanted to die and be buried with me.

    I had to tell him no,,,,,,,, that if I was in heaven, i would want to watch him grow up and have children for me to watch grow up. I told him that when I start to die, I think my mom will come to me and take me to her place in Heaven and we can catch up and talk and talk. He seemed to like this idea as much as I do. I told him to not be afraid if something happens and I die,,,, that it will be ok, I will have lots of family there to be with and that I will always be with him.

    Honestly I have no idea , but I am open to any idea and it all sounds too good to be true , but maybe it is that way. My little son was able to fall asleep after hearing that,,,,,,,and he will remember what I have said,,,,,,he never forgets anything. As the kids get older I want to instill in them the need to search all things out and learn as much as they can and come up with their own beliefs.

    This is majoy strides in my son, because he was so scared of armeggedon and of me dying and just being in the cold ground. He seems more at peace with this idea, and that little boy is more spiritual than anyone I know. He even told me he saw Jesus in a dream,,,,,,,, but he wasnt sure if it was a picture in his mind he saw. He loves God and Jesus , even thou we have been away from the jw, the kingdom hall for almost 1 1/2.... he proves you dont have to have a religion to be a spiritual person.

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    : Where are you going when you die?

    I'm trying to figure out where I'm going while I still LIVE. The rest is bullshit and stupid speculation: nobody knows, and speculation won't change a damn thing about what will REALLY happen when we die. Get used to it.

    Farkel

  • Big Tex
    Big Tex

    Wow Dede, awesome post. You did well by explaining things as best you can. He will come to his own beliefs one day, but for now he needs to know as much as you do. He sounds like an extraordinary little boy.

    You are right that you don't religion to be spiritual. Many times religion gets in the way of spirituality. Why do you feel he is so interested in what happens after death? I was at that age, but that was because of what had happened to me.

  • joannadandy
    joannadandy
    Where are you going when you die?

    I'm goin to Disney World!! I want to be stuffed and incorporated into the "Pirates of the Carribean" ride in some way...

    Umm...in all honesty, I have no idea. I am not to sure I care. I am busy now living my life and being the best person I can be, and making the most of the limited time I have. Everything else can get sorted out later, said the young punk.

  • bebu
    bebu

    I recall an interesting illustration. Suppose an unborn child was trying to figure out what use there was for his developing arms, legs, eyes and ears. In a small, dark womb there is no place to run, nothing he could create, see or hear (except dimly). To this child, being born could be a fearful event, leaving what is familiar. Yet, what doesn't make sense in the womb makes sense for our lives after being born: our legs were not useless, afterall; neither are our eyes, ears, and hands.

    Likewise, I think that we are able to choose in this life whether we wish to gain wisdom, to follow and value righteousness, and to choose the path of loving those who we come across in our lives. These traits, if we wish to "develop" them, are what make us capable of enjoying life with God after we die. How could we expect to suddenly enjoy righteousness, when on earth we scorned it? God honors the choices we make in our hearts.

    I believe that Christ is the firstfruits of the dead, and the door has been opened now for anyone at anytime/place, to enter heaven if their deepest desire is to seek truth, justice, righteousness, and love. Those are the ones who can love God; it isn't a theological test.

    God recognizes our hearts, and in that moment we see him, we will understand our hearts as well. I think that our reaction to God will instantly be either one of utter love, or desparate fear, no matter what our background might be. We make the decision daily, whether we will be born healthy or stillborn, in God's world. (We didn't get this chance to choose the first time 'round.)

    This might explain (as someone pointed out earlier) why so many keep connecting (in some way) the need for goodness to having salvation. I see it this way: God knows we don't have goodness--so all He asks is that we WANT it, so He can give it to us. And we have to be able to humble ourselves, to admit we don't have it, and do so yearn for it.

    Sorry for the long post.

    bebu

  • Mystery
    Mystery

    Farkel - do you have children? Have you lost anyone close to you? Maybe after you figure out "where I'm going while I still LIVE " you will have empathy for others. I don't dwell on this. I LIVE my life. I am involved with things I would have never been involved with as a JW. I love watching my sons play sports (as no JW are ever allowed to). I coach rec. I volunteer. I work. I raise my sons the best way i know how. I hope you find a way to LIVE your life and be happy with your decision. You are right "speculation won't change a damn thing", even tho we speculate everyday. Do you have plans for tomorrow? Do you have an appointment in the future? You are speculating that you will even be alive to do something tomorrow. Everyone speculates. Does ANYONE know what happens when they die? No. But is is nice to hear others opinions so that I can decide what to tell my sons so that they dont worry about me when they bury me. The will have THEIR LIVE TO LIVE, not worry about where Mom is?

  • RAYZORBLADE
    RAYZORBLADE

    That's a good question. Interesting when children ask these questions, how it makes us as adults, think just a bit differently, or perhaps more pensively towards the subject.

    This past 1 year, I've had to take in more death and dying than I care to. With recently (3 months ago) the death of a close friend due to a brain aneurysm.

    The tricky part is knowing others view on death and what happens next, or their wishful thinking.

    Me: I don't feel like there's anything afterwards.

    In my head, I feel what's most important is the HERE and NOW. Personally, I feel that once I am dead, that's it...game over.

    If I'm wrong, I guess I'll find out then.

  • gitasatsangha
  • gitasatsangha
  • gitasatsangha
    gitasatsangha

    that was odd. I double post. I dont know how that happened.

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