Caught in a web of lies.

by avengers 17 Replies latest watchtower scandals

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  avengers

  Below is a letter written by the WT.

  WORLD HEADQUARTERS OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

  
  25 Columbia Heights, Brooklyn, NY 11201-2483 • Tel. 718 560-5000
  
  XXXX November 1, 2001 No. XXXXX
  
  Via CompuServe
  
  
  Branch Committee
  XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
  
  Dear Brothers:
  
  Because of published allegations by opposers that we have secret links with the United Nations, a number of branches have inquired about the matter and we have replied. This circular letter replaces any replies we have given earlier and is sent to all branches. To anyone inquiring within your branch territory you might respond according to what is stated below:
  
  Our purpose for registering with the Department of Public Information as a nongovernmental organization (NGO) in 1991 was to have access to research material available on health, ecological, and social problems at the United Nations library facilities. We had been using the library for many-years prior to 1991, but in that year it became necessary to register as an NGO to have continued access. Registration papers filed with the United Nations that we have on file contain no statements that conflict with our Christian beliefs. Moreover, NGOs are informed by the United Nations that "association of NGOs with the DPI does not constitute their incorporation into the United Nations system, nor does it entitle associated organizations or their staff to any kind of privileges, immunities or special status."
  
  Still, the Criteria for Association of NGOs-at least in their latest version-contain language that we cannot subscribe to. When we realized this, we immediately withdrew our registration. We are grateful that this matter was brought to our attention.
  
  We trust that the above is, helpful in counteracting the attempts of opposers to discredit us.
  
  Please be assured of our warm Christian love and best wishes. Your brothers,
  
  Chairman's Committee

  c: Administration Offices Desks
  Legal Department
  Office of Public Information

  note: We had been using the library for many-years prior to 1991, but in that year it became necessary to register as an NGO to have continued access Registration papers filed with the United Nations that we have on file contain no statements that conflict with our Christian beliefs.

  "What are the Criteria for NGOs to become associated with DPI?"

  Organizations eligible for association with DPI are those which:

  Share the ideals of the UN Charter;

  Operate solely on a not-for-profit basis;

  Have a demonstrated interest in United Nations issues and proven ability to reach large or specialized audiences, such as educators, media representatives, policy makers and the business community;

  Have the commitment and means to conduct effective information programmes about UN activities by publishing newsletters, bulletins, and pamphlets; organizing conferences, seminars and round tables; and enlisting the cooperation of the media.

  "

  Below is a letter from the United Nations.

  United Nations Nations Unies

  HEADQUARTERS – SIEGE NEW YORK, N Y 1 0 0 1 7

  TEL. : 1 (212)963 - 1234 - FAX : 1 (212) 963 - 4879

  18 March 2002

  Dear Mr. XX,

  In reply to your letter dated 19 Februrary 2002, please be informed of the following:

  1.The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc., an NGO, had been associated with the DPI since 1992 and requested to terminate its association in 2001. the request was granted on 9 October 2001. According to the website www.watchtower.org, the organization is “a legal organization in use by Jehovah’s Witnesses.“
  2.The United Nations does not force or “trick“ any NGO to be associated with DPI.
  3.The criteria for association for NGOs have not been changed since 1991.

  We are also attaching a copy of response from our office to inquiries about the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.

  Sincerely,

  Lyutha Al-Mughairy
  Chief
  Public Liaison Service
  Department of Public Information

  cc: S. Tharoor
  T. Gastaut
  P. Hoeffel

  Caught in a web of lies. Who can deny it?
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  RAYZORBLADE

  Avengers: that was an excellent post.

  Not only did you post the WTBTS letter re: UN - but you also included what entails having access to the UN, which means...having some sort of relationship with them.

  Hmm?? (Rayzorblade scratches his head)

  Thanks for posting that, it was perfect!
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  avengers

  Has the criteria for getting a library pass
  to the United Nations Changed?

  Note this email from an anonymous questioner:

  The procedure for a library pass is the following: the
  interested party needs to fill out an application form
  and supply a letter of recommendation in support of
  the research. If the needed material is not available
  in a UN depository library (the list of depository
  libraries is posted at:
  http://www.un.org/depts/dhl/deplib/countries/), the
  application is approved and sent to UN Security. UN
  Security checks the application and, if approval is
  granted, instructs the Pass Office to issue a library
  pas for the applicant.
  
  The issuance of a library pass is independent of NGO
  status or any other status. There has been no change
  in the library pass policy.
  NGO representatives with UN grounds pass do not need
  to apply for a library pass since the grounds pass
  will allow them to use the UN Library.
  
  Best regards,
  Dana Loytved
  
  Senior Reference Librarian
  UN/SA Reference Desk
  United Nations Library, New York
  E-mail: [email protected]
  
  
  *********
  
  
  I have been at this library since 1985 and confirm
  again that there was no change in 1991.
  
  Best regards,
  Dana
  
  UN/SA Reference Desk
  United Nations Library, New York
  E-mail: [email protected]

  
  

  Caught in a web of lies. I wonder how they will lie their way out of this? They can't. A lier is a lier no matter how many times he tries to convince you it's the Truth. Ha. eat that one
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  Gopher

  Good post, avenger.

  That letter by the WT Society is so full of holier-than-thou language, very typical of them.

  quote: Still, the Criteria for Association of NGOs-at least in their latest version-contain language that we cannot subscribe to. When we realized this, we immediately withdrew our registration. We are grateful that this matter was brought to our attention.

  So who in the HELL brought this "to their attention"? Are they thankful to the very opposers that they condemn for helping bring how WRONG all this was to their attention?

  They had to turn around and withdraw as an NGO "with their tail between their legs". They got caught in bed with a major political entity that they had long decried as "Satan's substitute for God's Kingdom here on earth". LOL, and shame on them.
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  avengers

  Excerpts:

  «"The registry as NGO was made only to be able to give humanitarian help and defend the human rights in several countries of the world", said to [the newspaper] Público Pedro Candeias, spokesman of the Association of Jehovah's Witnesses [AJW] in Portugal. In Portugal, however, the disaffiliation from the registry is not yet officially known by the AJW, which represents nearly 50,000 believers.»

  «This [JW] official says the religious group to which he belongs has had "an important role" in the help to populations of countries like Angola, Bosnia, Georgia, Rwanda and other African or Latin-American [countries]. "To reach those countries was complicated and, for that reason, it was necessary to registry" the WTBTS in the United Nations. But that registry, he says, does not compromise the Jehovah's Witnesses with "any political involvement" with the UNO.»

  «"It is not a political maneuver", says the AJW spokesman, "because without the support of the UNO it would not be possible to distribute humanitarian help". And as the registry "does not violate the statutory precepts" of the JW, the criticisms to the registry in the DPI "do not have any basis", says Pedro Candeias.»

  [end of newspaper excerpts]

  If the criticisms "do not have any basis", and if the registry is so important "to give humanitarian help and defend the human rights in several countries of the world", why has the Watchtower Society hurriedly disaffiliated itself from the United Nations after the case was made known on the Internet?

  The JW spokesman lied when he said the registry with the UN does not compromise the Jehovah's Witnesses with any political involvement with the United Nations.

  (end of excerpts)

  without the support of the UNO it would not be possible to distribute humanitarian help

  In other words, Jehovah God needs the UN.

  the registry "does not violate the statutory precepts" of the JW

  Organizations eligible for association with DPI are those which:

• Share the ideals of the UN Charter;

If the registry does not violate the statutory precepts of the JW then it means they agree with the UN .

Which is it? Or are they caught in a web of lies?

What a laugh. Actually it's pathetic.