Giving Thanks to Watchtower

by thinker 22 Replies latest jw experiences

  • thinker
    thinker

    Hello All,

    I'm sure most of you here don't know me. I came to this forum in the later part of 2000 shortly after meeting my wife. Although I still come here often to read, I rarely post anymore.

    Recently two very fine people, an elder and his wife, left the WT. My wife was very close to these folks when she was "in" and missed talking with them after she left. I had the pleasure of meeting them twice before they shunned us completely. Their exit from the cult reinforces my belief that good and decent people who are mentally and emotionally capable will eventually leave the organization, with or without outside help. To me, the Watchtower is it's own worst enemy.

    I first came here to learn more about the WT and it's policy of shunning ex-members. It just seemed unbelievable cruel and heartless. That one policy lead me to research EVERYTHING about the WT. I've cluttered up my computer with tons of information. I've visited hundreds of websites and learned the complete history of the JW's, all the failed predictions, changes in policy, deceptions and lies, scandals and cover-ups. None of this helped a single JW see the Org for what it is. However, it has helped me to warn countless numbers of non-witnesses.

    Since I first came here almost three years ago, I've read more of the bible than ever before, including a number of books that didn't make it into the "official" bible. My thoughts on the bible haven't changed, but I now know more about why I believe what I do. My spiritual beliefs have become clearer because of an intense self-examination. I spent a few months on an active JW forum discussing their beliefs. The result was very predictable: closed minds who end a discussion when they run out of answers, no logic or reason, just blind obedience. I left that forum when an inactive JW was shunned on it. Amazingly, the active JW's asked me to stay!

    As I said earlier, I don't post here very often, I've already discussed every aspect of JW history and scandal. The personal stories follow a predictable pattern of abuse and cruelty and have become hard to read. The one silver lining of these stories is the knowledge that good and decent people are leaving the WT in droves. It seems to me that those who stay in "for the duration" fall into two categories: those who could not function independently and those who don't really believe, but wish to exert control over others. There is also a group who don't believe but just play along to keep in contact with their family.

    I used to think JW's were extremely devout people, but that's just the image they want to project. I've since learned that deep inside there are many active JWs who don't believe in the WT. The more I learn about JWs, the more hypocritical they seem. I've learned about my wife's father (an elder) and his adultry. I found out about how he knowingly laundered "dirt" money (a federal offense). I heard the story of a JW being baptised and still smoking tobacco and pot and living an immoral life. My wife was a JW for 38 years and knows the truth about the people who falsely don a cloak of rightousness. It seems clear to me that the WT is more about business than religion and each day more and more good people in the organization are discovering that on their own. Websites like this let them know that they're not alone and help ensure that they'll never be trapped again.

    I'd like to thank the Watchtower. They've helped me examine my own beliefs and cemented my ideas about the bible, but more importantly, their policies are helping to free many fine people from the organization. That's something that all my research and facts could not do. For that I am grateful.

    thinker

  • outnfree
    outnfree

    Well, I remember you ((((((((Thinker))))))))) and have missed you and ((((((((((Thinker's Wife)))))))))!

    At this month's meeting of exJWs in our area, many did feel that having endured being Witnesses was cruicial to their personal progress as human beings. We are still searching for "community", but are not at all concerned about "unity" :) Each one of us feels free to explore, to examine, to think critically, and to allow one another to think and believe as s/he wishes. It's a beautiful thing.

    And perhaps we do have the Watchtower and its unfeeling, ever-changing rules and overall rigidity to thank for that.

    Nice to hear from you!

    outnfree

  • DJ
    DJ

    Hi Thinker,

    I have had the same thoughts many times. I suppose that God can turn bad things into useful tools for his own purpose. Sort of like a backfire. Dj

  • NaruNaruChan
    NaruNaruChan
    I used to think JW's were extremely devout people, but that's just the image they want to project. I've since learned that deep inside there are many active JWs who don't believe in the WT.

    My old best friend... she's one of those, and it drives me nuts, now that I've left and she's still in and practicing shunning.

    The more I learn about JWs, the more hypocritical they seem. I've learned about my wife's father (an elder) and his adultry. I found out about how he knowingly laundered "dirt" money (a federal offense). I heard the story of a JW being baptised and still smoking tobacco and pot and living an immoral life.

    Her JW fiancee hangs out with heavy drinkers and potheads, plays adult video games, watches porn and R rated movies, and is in "Good standing" in the cong.

    I agree with you, though. Thanking the society for teaching me more about what NOT to be. ^_^

  • Pleasuredome
    Pleasuredome
    I'd like to thank the Watchtower. They've helped me examine my own beliefs and cemented my ideas about the bible,

    although i wouldnt goes as far as to thank the watchtower, i do feel the same way as you. i dont think i would change my experience in the borg, as its done for me as what its done for you. its been a great learning curve, and so has this board, and my thanks goes to all who've put in a lot of effort into researching the WTS. policies only affect those who start to scratch the surface. unfortunately many dont bother to do that, thinking that nothing could be wrong, after all this if Jehovahs org.

    The one silver lining of these stories is the knowledge that good and decent people are leaving the WT in droves.

    i dont see it from where i'm at, but i hope they are all over the world.

  • A Paduan
    A Paduan

    Many that had not witnessed jwism may still be into darkness - perhaps much can be made of it.

  • Maverick
    Maverick

    Dear Thinker: What a well written post! It was a pleasure to read. You truly are a thinker. Maverick

  • alwayshopeful
    alwayshopeful

    I came on this website, looking for fellow believer's ? I am sorry that these things I have read are sad :-( I have been a Jehovah's Witness since I was nine, and I am now thirty one . I have been through my ups and downs with the " Truth" but never have I been compelled to blame fellow witnesses for their faults, and the things as we may see is not right? The main thing is not to judge ?? But as we all know that we are human, that is the first thing that we naturally do? as well as blame. Loving is to look beyond, and to understand that we are human and so far from imperfection, that we will see things and not understand them? My thing is to hold fast and to stay close to Jehovah. I have had several brothers and sisters go to the "WT" and serve there and have loved it, and they are not of the "anointed ones" and they have not been shunned. We have to ask ourselves why dwell on the things that can go wrong, when in this time everything is suppose to be going wrong, that we know is suppose to be the path of the devil , to make us see things happening and to be judgemental. We are to leave those things up to Jehovah, because only he can make the right decision. I myself have not made all the right decisions in my life so far, but I pray everyday that things will get better :-) Life is to short to sit around and wonder why this person is doing this or that person is doing that. Everyone knows that life isnt perfect, but it will be. Wether we choose to be there or not , it will exsist anyway, Jehovah didnt create life to just be and to be violent and ridicule others, He created it to be peaceful and loving and giving. Call me blind or what may ? But I know in my HEART , JEHOVAH is the one thing that has got me through life thus far, and gives me hope to continue on. People may say it's not true, but i say that for some of the non-believers, Life has been grand for me for something that isnt so true :-) I am not blind and I am not snookered, I am who I am and I choose to believe in Jehovah because he chose to believe in you :-) Why doubt the good things in life ? Concentrate on the good not the bad. I will pray for all to have happiness when they lay ther head on their pillows tonight, because I will :-) Love, Alwayshopeful

  • DJ
    DJ

    Dear Alwayshopeful,

    I like your name. Welcome. While you may come across a poster who speaks ill about his neighbor on this board, I think that for the most part the people here are not judging or even coming close to that. The posters here have a beef with the watchtower's teachings not the followers of the watchtower themselves. Most of us have family who are active. We don't hate them. Many here have suffered the pain of shunning by their family. Shunning is said to be only for immoral behavior and the like but I can tell you that if a jw just asks to many questions or disagreed with the now changed 1914 generation teaching......they were df'd and consequently shunned. Stick around hopeful because you will be pleasantly surprised at the knowledge you will aquire. I was always taught to examine teachings but when I examined closely my own teachings I was freed in Christ. Love, Dj

  • berylblue
    berylblue

    Dear Always,

    Welcome. I appreciate your thoughts. If you stay here a little while, you may understand why some on this board are just a little bitter.

    Rosemarie

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