ME!
"But it does move"
Galileo
by goo 19 Replies latest jw friends
ME!
"But it does move"
Galileo
An excerpt from my story at:
* http://www.gayxjw.org/jimstory.html
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Then my spiritual world caved in. I was still faithfully doing street work, when one day a man approached me seeming very interested in my message. During the course of our conversation, I invited him to start a Bible study, to which he quickly agreed. Excitedly, I asked for his address, whereupon he told me "Wernersville State Hospital", which was a nearby mental institution. As it turned out, he was a long-term patient there, having lived on the ward over twenty years. Nevertheless, I approached another brother (as yet unbaptized) in the congregation and asked him if he would care to join me for a Bible study there, to which he enthusiastically agreed. Little by little, other long-term patients on the ward joined in our study, and it made my heart glad that I could offer hope to these seemingly hopeless and abandoned people. Eventually, I approached the manager of the ward and requested day passes, two at a time, for the patients, to take them to Sunday meetings at the Kingdom Hall, which were granted. The gentleman I had originally studied with came with me every time, but he had one serious idiosyncrasy: He had a loud, bellowing laugh, and always laughed at inappropriate times during the Sunday talks, which would send the congregation into hysterics. After several weeks, one Sunday I was surrounded by elders who asked why I was bringing these people with me to the Kingdom Hall. Astonished, I stated that these people needed to be saved most of all, to which the reply from the elders retorted "Yes, but they cannot understand our doctrines". I asked if that would exclude them from ever being able to become Jehovah's Witnesses, therefore condemning them to die at Armageddon, to which I was icily told "Yes". It was at this point which I began to question my beliefs.
hi jim - yes i was in a cong that had similar problems - brothers used to bring tranny studies to the meeting - and i'm not talking radio's -
the elders verdict was that unless the trannies had an op changing them back to what they "really" were baptism was no go. goo.
SFJim: Sounds like the right place for them to me
"But it does move"
Galileo
The most hypocritical thing was when I would drop the car group off to work a couple of blocks, and then tell them I would be a couple of blocks over and would get them when I was done.
Then I went to the restaurant for breakfast, and usually stopped at a couple of car lots to look things over and finally returned to pick up the group to move on to a couple of more blocks.
Then it was 'coffee time' where I also downed a few doughnuts!
Outaservice (Now making time count, not counting time!)
When I disassociated, I didn't realize at the time that it was due to the inner disturbance from massive cognitive dissonance. I just thought I had a really bad spiritual problem. So I kept trying to get the elders to help me, which annoyed the hell out of them. We would make agreements to meet and they wouldn't show. Or, a lone elder would talk with me and we would agree there were things that could be done better, and then he would get with the body as a whole and sit there silent while they condemned me.
So, after I left, my wife was talking to this one elder about what might have been done to "save me". He said, "Well, I never had much hope for him anyway."
Mommie Dark: bondage is probably a lot more common than anybody openly admits, but... a three-month collection of used rubbers? Eewww. This dude is seriously sick.
"bondage is probably a lot more common than anybody openly admits, but... a three-month collection of used rubbers? Eewww. This dude is seriously sick."
Yes, that's what I told him. I could understand the handcuffs (with pretty pink fuzzy lining BTW) but stashing the condoms like that was just plain GROSS.
When I asked him didn't the hypocrisy bother his conscience, he didn't even blink. So long as nobody 'in the truth' found out, he was cool with juggling the two lives.
That's the one thing that I never could understand. They gave talks on not leading double lives all the time.
Yet, everyone does. In fact, it seems like a prerequisite for a Witness to lead a double life. It's almost like we are trained to lead double lives.
. o O (slipnslidemaster)
goo, it does run thick indeed:
trip on this, i did. . .
there was an elder in my hall who had both a son and a nephew that attended our congregation, and it they all had issues with me. . .
one time this elder reemed me out for driving a red car, mind you it was a burgundy 4-door Mazda 626, he must have been color blind, meanwhile his nephew would peel out of the hall parking lot, causing the tires to smoke and usually would pull into the lot with the music so loud that you could hear it inside.
at another time this elder had a talk with me about attending college and the courses i was taking, a few months later i dropped out to goto barber school, planning to pick up a trade and return to school, cut to the chase, while i attended barber school his son enrolled in college.
still again at another time, shortly after i had just completed my hours to become a barber, SAME elder tells me that it was not a profession for a witness because the association i would under would corrupt my spirituality, being that i would have to work with homosexuals and "that" sort of individual, he said that being that i was single i should not be in that worldly environment.
i look at him and i ask him, "dude, doesn't the society say to learn a trade and not goto college? show me a scripture to back up your opinion. besides any job i take will force me to spend time with the worldly" Meanwhile his wife was a hairdresser, but it was ok because she was married. can someone explain this?
then there was the time when i had first moved out of my parents house, and his son started a rumor that my male roommate and i were a much more than roommates, irony was that at the time i was privately reproved for having sex with a female co-worker, and his dad had been in the judicial commitee. because i spoke and was not busted they could not df me to the elder's dissapointment.
anyhow, my roommate and i had witnesses to the story his son was spreading, so we showed up at his house and confronted him, in front of his dad, about what we had heard, he denied it, we told him we had proof, he blurt out a totally different name from the ones we had, and his dad swept it under the carpet, so much for a slander case. . .
forward 8 years i speak with my sister a few weeks ago and she tells me that the son left the organization.
this one is a gem too, totally irrelevant to the previous story, but priceless none the less. . .
there was a kid (which we will call J) , one of my co-workers saw him at a party in south beach holding hands and making out with another guy,
a few years later a different co-worker of mine who was this J's hairdresser, is here in nyc and we are out drinking catching up, he tells me that J was 'curious' and had gone to his place to watch gay porn, while all along stringing a sister along to whom he was engaged to. . .oh yeah he was the son of an elder too.
CHUCK
ps. about the used condoms, didn't they smell after a while??!!!
Logical, was that a joke WHOHOOO I knew you had it in you!!
Ven