JWs and the problem of Creation en toto

by logansrun 42 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • logansrun
    logansrun

    Jehovah's Witnesses will often scoff with scornful disdain at young earth creationists for believing that the "days" in Genesis are literal and that the entire universe is only about 6 to 10 thousand years old. What about the ages of rocks measured in the millions? Light from stars millions of light years away? This is absolute proof for an old earth and universe. So the JWs say, and of course, I agree (but, I'm an evolutionist, hehe).

    The young earth response is that God created the stars and earth with the appearance of age, so this scientific proof is no proof at all. Talk about a massive violation of Okham's Razor! Anyway, most astute JWs would say that this young earth view is seriously misguided and quite absurd. But, how different is the JW view of creation?

    Jehovah's Witnesses believe that Adam was created out of clay by God and made into a fully-developed adult male. The same could basically be said with Eve and all the other myriad creations: they were all created fully formed with the appearance of age. Obviously, this would have included thoughts and language in the mind of Adam, for he was able to communicate with God without going through the natural development of human beings. Ditto for Eve. Strange, very strange.

    So, how much more "scientific" is the JW interpretation of things as opposed to the young-earth model? They both believe that God created things fully formed with the appearance of age which wasn't actually there. Shame on the WT for thinking themselves better than the traditional creationist numskils.

    Just a little thought,

    Bradley

  • Valis
    Valis

    wasn't Eve created from Adam's rib? and what does creation have to do w/a little dog from Kansas?

    Sincerely,

    District Overbeer

  • logansrun
    logansrun

    Vailis,

    Haha...I try and appear smarter than I actually am sometimes by throwing around some Latin phrases I've managed to pick up. En toto means, essentially, in totality or complete (I knew you were joking about this, though).

    Yes, Eve created out of a rib after God has to physically cut Adam open, remove the rib, and sew him back up. Why not just use your special God powers to transport (ala Star Trek) the rib from Adams chest so you don't have to go through the nasty business of actully slicing him open? Gee, why even make Eve out of a rib at all?

    Maybe, just maybe, this is a story some Jew thought up after having a bad goat for breakfast.

    Bradley

  • Valis
    Valis

    Adam was walking around the Garden of Eden feeling very lonely, so God asked Adam, "What is wrong with you?"
    Adam said he didn't have anyone to talk to.
    God said he was going to give him a companion and it would be a woman.
    God said this person will cook for you and wash your clothes, she will always agree with every decision you make.
    She will bear you children and never ask you to get up in the middle of the night to take care of them.
    She will not nag you,and will always be the first to admit she was wrong when you've had a disagreement.
    She will never have a headache, and will freely give you love and compassion whenever needed.
    Adam asked God what would a woman like that would cost him.
    God said, "An arm and a leg."
    Adam said, "What can I get for just a rib?"
    And the rest is history

    Sincerely,

    District Overbeer of the "Ducking For Cover" class

  • hooberus
  • logansrun
    logansrun

    Um, yes, Hooberus; it is.

  • hooberus
    hooberus

    I'm glad that you were there logan so that you can now tell us.

  • logansrun
    logansrun

    Hooberus,

    And I am glad you were there when God had to "put" the Sun and moon in the sky, and "put" the rainbow in the air after the flood so it would remind him never to destroy the earth again. I'm glad you were there to confirm all that.

    B

  • Sargon
    Sargon

    Logan,

    Wouldn't it have been easier to just tie a string on His finger to remember?

  • hooberus
    hooberus

    I never said that I was there.

    earlier I asked:

    Is the earth really that old?

    to which you replied: Um, yes, Hooberus; it is.

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