Just a moan - regarding the latest trend in ignorance of the English language!

by The Fall Guy 17 Replies latest jw friends

  • Pete Zahut
    Pete Zahut

    The one I hate is when people don't pronounce the T or D sounds in certain words or the N'T sound when using a contraction such as wouldn't or didn't. This seems to be mostly done by young women.

    The word WOULDN'T becomes WUH'-ENT and the word DIDN'T becomes DI'- ENT

    Even in the JW Caleb and Sophia video where the repeatedly mother say's Say'-en instead of Satan.

    The word OFTEN becomes OFFEN. I offen go out in field service but this week I di'-ent. I wood-a, but Sa'-en the devil woo'-ent let me.

  • cofty
    cofty

    It's right to allow for casual or colloquial use of language in appropriate circumstances.

    My concern is that so many people have not got a clue how to use language correctly when they need to.

    I agree with the poster above who identified lack of reading as the problem. I think there has also been a neglect of basic education in schools. There has to be lessons where being correct is more important than expressing yourself.

  • The Fall Guy
    The Fall Guy

    ....and don't get me started on singulars and plurals!

    It really bugs me when people (especially BBC newsreaders etc) say things like -

    "The government are discussing the E.U.'s brexit proposals..." and "the Manchester United football team are playing in the semi-final tonight."

    Is, is, is, - not 'are'.

  • JayDubyaDotOrg
    JayDubyaDotOrg

    I hear you on this one, there their and they're gets me every time.

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    I just file it all under " General Ignorance ", but that has the effect of me disregarding the full import of what people are trying to express, it makes their argument seem to lack weight, which is a shame, often such people have valid points to offer.

    The ones who I really get annoyed with are those that are supposed to be professional Wordsmiths, on the T.V, or in Print, and a number of our Politicians in the U.K, one of whom cannot pronounce the word " Nuclear " , it becomes " Nucular". I won't have a go at Trump, English is obviously his Fifth language, after Balderdash, Nonsense, Waffle, Babytalk, and Utter Bollocks. Oh, that makes English his Sixth.

  • caves
    caves

    I've noticed a decline in my own spelling and ability to write in cursive. My "smart phone" auto corrects words that I have spelled correctly and I have to manually input the word into the key touch system. It drives me crazy.

    So I can see why the decline since people are just trusting the devices we have know better than we do?

    Also, I really like math. Not more than 6-7 years ago I could work out some decently complicated problems in my head pretty fast. It was this year I noticed that I had stopped doing that because my phone does it for me. I was talking with a client about it who is 35 yrs plus my senior and she too said that she has noticed that basic math was harder on the fly since the rise of smartphones.

    I was talking with other folks much older than me (which is my normal for the simple reason that it seems, over all, they are more educated) and all of them said that Latin was taught in middle and high school when they were young. I felt/feel cheated somehow. Now its a course in college that one chooses.

    I remember when talking in "Ebonics" was a joke and then it was as if it became a statement of 'style' and other retard reasoning I wont go into here. OH NO YOU DI'-ENT. Ugh.

    Personally I appreciate when some person genuinely points out to me when my wording is wrong.

    The internet is loose for me, meaning I get in a hurry sometimes, allow myself to multi task and then not pay attention to precisely how I'm wording things.

  • nonjwspouse
    nonjwspouse

    Email began with people generally writing without paying much attention to how they write. Even punctuation went out the window many times. Form was ignored.

    Texting is even worse. The words became shorthand, and again punctuation was slaughtered.

    The young generation today grew up reading and writing electronically. The electronic communication form is now their primary form. Instead of writing long letters with style and flair, they condense and use icons.

    IMO this grammar, spelling and form decline is a direct product of that, along with the lack of reading.

    I see it everywhere.

    I was guilty of it myself when I first began writing emails. Early on, a wise friend told me I should treat an email just like a business, or personal written letter because otherwise I will get lazy. He was so right! Even doing that I still find myself falling into the lazy mode of popular electronic communication.

    Going to the point brought up by the OP, "would of" or "woulda, coulda, shoulda" - if written in a purposeful dialect style is correct in form. But so many times it is written out of ignorance. That is a very sad realization of the lack of the knowladge for proper English people have become conditioned to believing.

    Living in the SE US I hear butchered English spoken constantly. Speaking it is showing a lack of understanding but sometimes acceptable due to a colorful way of speaking. I adore hearing a colorful speaker, with wonderful stories. But writing it, without a clear understanding of the audience that it is only a dialect being used for a purpose in the written piece, shows a horrific lack of education.

    When I hear a Mom that home schools her kids consistently say things such as "She done it" makes me fear she is teaching the children the same grammar in her school setting.

    It's sad.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    Mistakes are one thing. It is excusable if English is not your first language, you are doing your best to master English, and your native language has grammar that is different from English. I understand that French places adjectives after their nouns, and German frequently pushes helper verbs to the end of clauses where English doesn't.

    But, for people that grew up with English (and typos allowed) that continually make the same lazy grammar mistakes, they really need to start working on their grammar. This needs to be addressed to the source of the problem--the Rockefeller diseducation system that would rather teach people that they need to be enslaved instead of teaching proper grammar. How many class hours are wasted teaching fictitious or outdated things to guilt people into paying reparations for something that happened hundreds or thousands of years ago, or didn't happen at all? No wonder people do not take education seriously.

    Or, what about Martin Luther Tyrant type philosophy that makes "minority" demographics lazy on purpose? They come out of school lazy and stupid, because that is the culture this tyrant imposed on them. Racist? What about Marcus Garvey, who was just as black as Martin Luther Tyrant and tried teaching his race to rise up? Where did that teaching go, Rockefellers? Stop encouraging people to be lazy at the institutional level, stop wasting class hours teaching outdated or fictitious rubbish to impose global enslavement, and start teaching the basics (and grammar, like it or not, is one of the basics).

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