by Simon 865 Replies latest social current
Weapons of Mass Destruction
Israel: 200 + (Nuclear weapons)
Times they've let in UN inspectors: Zero
There's supposed to be a ban for the whole area, including Israel.
Just an interesting side point that may indicate a duplicity in the US targeting Iraq.
Pat
The fact that Saddam was put into power must have some bearing on the issue don't you think?
As I understand it, Saddam came to power via the Iraqi military and his own violent means. If you say he got help from the USA, I'll may believe you. If you say he was "put into power", then I'll think that's your agenda talking and I won't believe you w/o evidence. I do know that he was helped by the USA after being in power.
But as for it's "bearing on the issue", I don't know exactly what to do about the past. If you can change it, you'll be the first.
Personally, I can only believe that the reason Bush couldn't tell Chirac to "just shut up, ya dunce, you, personally, were selling Iraq a reactor in the 70/80's", is because our own hands are so dirty where Iraq is concerned. Bad situation, but it changes nothing now in regards to who Saddam is and the volatile position of the Middle East.
He didn't turn bad overnight, he was as ruthless when he was put into power as he was after.
Who could possibly know that? I am reminded of a common saying, "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely".
When he gassed the Kurds, Donald Rumsfeld visited 2 years later and sold him MORe of the weapons that were then used as an excuse to go and invade the country.Donald Rumsfeld was a fertilizer salesman!!??
Reborn,
No one seems to remember the Tuskegee Incident (in which African-American United States citizens were injected with syphilis to determine the effects,
Sorry to interject, I'm as curious as anyone as to how WMD continue to elude detection by the US forces after their takeover/liberation of Iraq.
But, in the Tuskegee Incident, no one was "injected" with syphilis.
Men diagnosed with syphilis were simply not told and were marked for follow-up to track the disease, based on race.
It was a disgusting and vile project that led to unnecessary deaths, the actions of all involved were abhorent, and need no embellishment.
Eric
Oh Pat, don't be silly. We can't target Isreal because of god and stuff.
Also something about the international bankers or sumpin'. *looks around* Where's rizzo when you need him?
Donald Rumsfeld was a fertilizer salesman...so he's used to selling everyone shit.
Pat
back atcha Patio
So are all of the JWD Middle Eastern and military scholars in favor of the UN lifting the santions against Iraq or leaving them in place?
Who could possibly know that? I am reminded of a common saying, "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely".
And old George W. is in charge of how much power exactly?
The simple facts remain:
We were lied to. The people who lied and their associates are now doing very well out of it all. None of the things promised so far for the Iraqi people have happened. They have shit literally filling up in the streets because the destruction of the infrastructure was well organised and efficient but any simple rebuilding seems to be difficult to organise.
Several demonstrations against the Americans being there, specifically using a primary school for a base when the town people want to use it to school their kids, have been met with indescriminate shooting into the crowd.
The Iraqi people are worse off now than they were before the west attacked Iraq. They used to be the best educated and generally well-off people in the region.
<Sigh> I give up
