RC 2017 talk: Safeguard Your Children From “What Is Evil” (page 2)

wifibandit

This article covers the issues with this talk.

Great job pointing out it is both what they say, and what they don't say.

http://jwsurvey.org/child-abuse-2/2017-watchtower-convention-children-must-dress-modestly-avoid-sexual-assault

OrphanCrow

So. Let me get this straight.

The WTS submitted a response to the ARC that claimed that they shouldn't be included in Australia's investigation into institutional abuse because...most of the JW cases were familial.

On one hand, the WTS says that child sex abuse in their congregations is familial, and then they turn around and tell parents to train their children to be alert to predators outside the family circle.

And on top of that...the WTS seems to think that a child can dress provocatively.

The guys in the Tower are clueless. They are idiots. They have told so many lies and made so many slimy moves that they don't know which end is up anymore.

jp1692

The WT leaders are unrepentant, not ignorant or stupid. Well, Lett is clearly an idiot but the others are willful.

EverApostate

Children shouldn’t be allowed to read the Bible which contains so many evil things. Also, they should be thoroughly educated that all religions are scams and all gods are man made.

Half banana

How to safeguard your children from evil...............keep them well away from the JW organisation.

fastJehu

OrphanCrow
The WTS submitted a response to the ARC that claimed that they shouldn't be included in Australia's investigation into institutional abuse because...most of the JW cases were familial.

Could you give me a link to the source, where I can find this statement?

Thanks a lot for all your hard work and your research for safeguarding children.

nonjwspouse

Also the lack of 'how to detect if your child is abused' and 'what to do if your child is abused' are interesting.

The continued training we Catholic adults go through, ( if we have any responsibilities involving children in the church or school activities we must go through this continued education) is ALL about how to detect, what to watch out for, what to do if you suspect abuse ( go to proper authorities right away) . It's educating the adults on how to help and detect. Also how to prevent. It is directed at the adult responsibilities which is EXACTLY where the responsibility lies, not with the children. Adults are the protectors.

This WT prose directing the responsibilities at the child is sickening. Warning a child not to go into the street then setting them on the corner, then turning around walking far away exclaiming " now it is up to the child" is exactly how I see the WT approaching this issue.

OrphanCrow

fast jehu: Could you give me a link to the source, where I can find this statement?

In the Submissions on behalf ofWatchtower Bible and Tract Societyof Australia & Others9 November 2015, this statement was made (pg 15):

Child sexual abuse is a matter of concern to any right thinking parent or adult, and to see it only as an “institutional” problem would be to miss an essential truth: that much abuse occurs within families.

The Commission responded with this in Report of Case Study No. 29 October 2106 (pg 8):

A key submission made on behalf of the Watchtower & Ors was that:

Familial child sexual abuse is not institutional sexual abuse, as has been acknowledged by the Commission. Similarly it is self-evident that when child sexual abuse occurs outside ‘institutional’ contexts as defined, the response to it does not fall within the Terms of Reference of this Commission.

The Commission proceeds on the basis that when an allegation of familial sexual abuse becomes known to an elder and is subsequently Scripturally investigated by congregation elders, it ceases to be familial abuse and becomes institutional abuse. This conflation of familial and institutional sexual abuse does not accord with the Terms of Reference.

wannaexit

Next they'll encourage the wearing of the burqa. Idiots. They have missed the point altogether.

Richard Oliver

they certainly could have written that part much better and clearer as to what they mean but I can think of at least 3 or 4 reasons why they may say this.

First, is that some child pornographers incorrectly think that if they take pictures of children in either underwear or in swimming wear that they won't be charged with the creation of child pornography. So it is possible that they were meaning to help parents teach their children that if someone is trying to take pictures of them in immodest dress such as in their bathing suits or in their underwear that is wrong and they need to tell their parents that this is happening.

Second, that some girls may develop more womanly features at a younger age than their parents were hoping for or that their peers are and that they have to become aware of that and learn how to dress more appropriate with their changing body at a younger age.

Third, this talk is for all children even those that are still under age but are in their mid teens and that some people who they may consider as their cool older friends may want to take advantage of their naivety and want to get them to dress more inappropriately around them.

RC 2017 talk: Safeguard Your Children From “What Is Evil”

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