Not a hint of a new date for the great tribulation. The attitude of JW is that they expect it immediately although the inter-lapping anointed allows for any additional extended time. Given the time of the end, the end comes after the good news is preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations with the internet and 108 years and tons of publications even in Finnish. I don’t think JW are looking towards 2034 in the future. No more dates.
Pawn to Queen 2034 anyone?
by Fisherman 28 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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DesirousOfChange
We are not serving Jehovah with any certain date in mind. We dedicated our lives to serve him (and his Organization) forever.
JUST LOOK at the evening news. This system is obviously on its way out very, Very, VERY soon!
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Disillusioned JW
Long ago Christianity and the Bible had been been preached to "all the inhabited earth", yet the end has not come, and thus the NT prophecy has failed. Granted the WT doctrine of the establishment of the kingdom in 1914 has not been preached to "all the inhabited earth", but that doctrine of the WT is a false interpretation of scripture and of the archaeological record of date of the destruction of Jerusalem by Babylon. As a result, an end in the biblical sense will never come, since there is no basis for believing that Jesus was a Christ and no basis for belief in any Christ in heaven, nor a divine Son of Man in heaven.
Atheism (in the full sense of atheistic naturalism) is truth and it is a very great truth. It needs to be proclaimed into all the inhabited earth for a witness and a testimony of reality to the people. People everywhere need to know that great truth.
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Fisherman
We dedicated our lives to serve him (and his Organization) forever.
The subject here is not why but WHEN.
We at JW always figured that the 1914 generation would experience the complete sign of Jesus’s parousia including the “great tribulation”.
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Disillusioned JW
Fisherman do you now believe that the 1914 generation might not experience the great tribulation? After all, anyone born in October 1914 if still alive today would be 108 years and five months old (and you acknowledge the 108 years). There only a small number (probably under 30 people) alive today who are at least 180 years old.
Fisheman, DesirousOfChange addressed the topic of "WHEN" when she/he stated her/his view of the following. "JUST LOOK at the evening news. This system is obviously on its way out very, Very, VERY soon!"
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Beth Sarim
With all the debunked dates the Borg has come up with over the years,,they would be foolhardy to pronounce any 'dates' specified at this time.
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Elmer
Is this Fisherman character for real? Seems like he has been trolling this site for 19 years….
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Fisherman
Very, VERY soon!"
That is subjective and doesn’t specifically address WHEN. Soon, very soon, very very soon, very, very very soon could mean in a couple of minutes or in a 1000 years depends on how you define soon. Why JW are loyal and that gt is coming soon even if it takes another 2000 years does not explain when.
When doesn’t depend on loyalty. Or on how soon it feels or is or on how you play with the word soon.
“Tell us WHEN will these things be”
in October 1914 if still alive today would be 108 years
I understand very well.
Great tribulation or bust is the motto assuming the correctness of 1914: “ “My words will never pass away” is recorded in all 3 gospels.
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Fisherman
Elmer, you remind me of someone that keeps honking the horn with a red light up ahead. Let them pass you then honk the horn behind them. Then they don’t like it. I’ve also told people with college degrees to return them and get their money back
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Disillusioned JW
Fisherman you said the subject is "when", but in this thread you yourself do not state when. You criticize the statement of "Very, VERY soon", yet the WT also says "Very, Very soon" (or at least statements with an equivalent meaning) and you claim to be a JW. Maybe what Elmer said is correct.