Trump wins (page 2)

Anony Mous

Kamala:

the election is not what we voted for… uhm, yes it is

continue to fight … hey, that’s calling for insurrection

bringing people together … against you moron

I do not concede the fight … seriously, Kamala 2028?

The spike in inflation was a product of nearly 15 years of zero percent interest rates, the pandemic stopping the entire world and the entire global economy firing up at once. It happened all over the globe and had nothing to do with who was in power and it is actually trending to where most economist want it to be. Between 2-3 percent.

The economy is not in the tank. The US economy is operating at full employment.If you want to work, you can find a job.

Kicking out the illegals will not make anything cheaper, it is actually the other way around ( plus it will not happen anyway ).

Trump added 7.2 trillion to the national debt in his first term. The most of any president without a 9/11, great recession, pandemic to deal with. The most of any peace time president. Per captia Reagan did outspend him but he did it to destroy the Soviet Union, something Trump seems hell bend on recreating.

The rich will get there tax breaks and your grand kids will pay for it.

Sea Breeze

Most people don’t understand that even if illegals don’t vote, their mere presence has already tilted our electoral system by the fact that the U.S. Census Bureau’s count adds to a state’s representation in Congress.

Because of the way reapportionment and redistricting work, illegal immigration redistributes political power in Washington.

We have been getting totally ripped off.

Anony Mous

@Riley: I have heard your arguments elsewhere, but Biden caused inflation worldwide, because decisions he made on Iran, Russia and China. Not just Biden, really his ideology that the Germans also pursued in regards energy and China and Iran and Russia took full advantage.

When Trump left office, the pandemic was practically over and the markets and economy had already recovered.

The economy is in the tank, you may see the media finally be honest about it because now they can blame Trump again, but we have been in a recession. The Biden admin lied by the hundreds of thousands on the job numbers, and the jobs they created (the ones that haven’t even recovered from pre-pandemic levels) went 75/25 to illegals according to the statistics, which is what happens when you give work permits to illegal immigrants pending their case which is scheduled 5-10 years down the line and 90% will never show up for. They built an app just so illegals can get their “temporary” legal status approved on a cell phone before they even get in the country.

It is funny you have to qualify that debt statement, we haven’t seen a peacetime president in hundreds of years and then you exclude every president since Reagan on economy. The first president that made it so we didn’t have to deal with war, recession or terrorism somehow he got there by pure luck? Come on.

Riley

The pandemic wasn't practically over when Trump left office. The worst days of the pandemic were the end of 2021 and the beginning of 2022.

I just stopped reading after you made that claim. There is no point if you just make up facts and figures.

Jehalapeno

Anyone else enjoying the schadenfreude?

Anony Mous

@Riley it’s called COVID-19 for a reason by the end of 2020 we knew what to do, what worked and what didn’t, we had a vaccine which the US funded development for the world. Whatever happened after that is on Biden, the 2021-2022 lockdowns, the mandates, none of that had to happen, it was proven to be wrong before they even got there. You can go see the stats yourself, 2021-2022 was nowhere near as bad as 2019-2020 when it comes to death and knowledge and financial impact. But as you stated, you won’t read facts from an apostate.

peacefulpete

Riley, you are absolutely correct. The independent Fed accomplished what some thought impossible, a soft landing. Biden's people were professionals and did an honorable job keeping the ship aright. I don't have to have agreed with everything said or done to know that things would be much worse under Trumps stated policies. Hopefully Congress will again reject his aims to capture the Fed governors to do his bidding. He called Powell the enemy of the people when he rebuffed Trumps call for lower, even zero, interest rates to make him appear a hero. This mirrored Nixon and Reagan. Reagan was rebuffed Nixon was successful and initiated a decade of inflation. Interest rates cannot be controlled by politicians and political ambition without serious consequences.

Trump can never actually do half of what he said, because the consequences would be catastrophic. He will do enough damage even so. If allowed to control the Fed, impose broad tariffs like he has promised, and deport a large segment of our workforce, we can expect hard times ahead. The bond market already is picking up on that. Stocks are a populist greed-driven animal short term, but realistic long term. The Trump bump will center on a handful of sectors like energy and banking that are eager for less oversight and regulation and will reverse strongly in a year or so when inflationary pressures from populist fiscal policy start to show. The money Biden committed to much needed infrastructure will hopefully not be captured. Congress would have to be complicit in that., so who knows.

If he actually allows emotionally autistic Musk to cut spending as he promised to do at the rally ($2 Trillion), we will be returning to an era of seniors eating cat food. Musk himself said it would likely cause markets to tumble and cause hardship on the common people, not him of course, but you and me. Somehow, I think Trump will put Musk back in the closet now that he is done with him. Trump showed no interest in heavy handed cuts the first time.

Trump's promise to disband the Department of Education and supporting funding will collapse school budgets and further put America at a scholastic disadvantage in the world. He has proposed fining and suing private colleges for teaching history, civil rights, and politics he disapproves of. He wants compulsory patriotic propaganda in the schools. That just doesn't play. He's a social liberal who never had a patriotic bone in his body. I again suspect that was 'hyperbole' as he called it in his book.

There are far too many pieces of his agenda that would take years to push through, if he really intends to, it just won't happen before the midterm elections. If he starts out aggressive, he will do damage to the economy and people's lives, but most Americans, even some of his supporters, will push back if he implements some of what he promised.

Lara Trump wants him to change the Constitution to give him a third term, I doubt he will try, he's too freaking old.

I have faith that responsible public servants and the voting population in two years will contain the worse of his impulsive nature. We will get through it.

Anony Mous

A soft landing in the business cycle is the process of an economy shifting from growth to slow-growth to potentially flat.

Great Achievement indeed. Democrats are like that dog in the meme when everything is on fire… this is fine!

resolute Bandicoot

Can I add another perspective please, what do the Chinese think about the trump win??

Talking with a good friend in China last night, my friend said that the general feeling in China is that people are happy with a Trump win because they feel safer. My friend is head of export sales for a medium size corporation, increased tariffs are a concern, but we will just work harder, she says.

RB

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