J.W.Sisters are not recognized as part of the 144000 Anointed class by the Governing Body of Jehovah`s Witnesses and never have been.

by smiddy3 18 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  smiddy3

  Not at all Vidiot ,ts just an observation I have made in publications I`m aware of that all illustrations made about those who have gone to heaven as the 144000 are all depicted as males with beards .

  If they recognized women among the anointed surely they would portray them in their illustrations ,? but no they don`t.

  I don`t presume to know what they are planning to do ,its anybody`s guess what they will come up with next ?

  And while women have been given some praise and acknowledgement in the Bible they have never been given any role of any significance ,certainly not in any governance or teaching capacity.

  So I fail to see how they could be given a role to act as co-workers with Jesus Christ ruling as "King priests" in heaven for a thousand years .

  Just my 2 cents worth.
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  vienne

  this from the 1974 Watchtower is still current teaching as far as I know:

  In what way are they “virgins”? The Bible explains. Concerning the 144,000, who are seen standing with the Lamb of God on the spiritual Mount Zion, it says: “These are the ones that did not defile themselves with women [like the religious harlot Babylon the Great, and her daughters]; in fact, they are virgins. These are the ones that keep following the Lamb no matter where he goes.” (Rev. 14:4; 17:3-5) After becoming spirit-begotten ones, having hope of reigning with Christ in the heavens, they do not commit spiritual “adultery” with this world. Consequently, these Christians do not defile themselves with the religious and political system of this world. They do not meddle or interfere in any way with politics or the operations of human governments.—2 Tim. 2:3, 4.
  
  
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  Finkelstein

  If the bible didn't mean men alone why didn't it say people or ones to identify both sexes ?

  This bit of information is a bit unnerving for the female anointed JWS.

  The WTS spin doesn't hold ground in adhering to the bible, its their own select interpretation made so to validate female anointed members of their faith.

  ....... but they say they never go beyond what is written. ........right
  
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  Nathan Natas

  The Anointed class CAN'T be women, because they are supposed to comprise Christ's BRIDE, and Jesus liked guys!

  Furthermore, we are told in Galatians, "For all you who have been baptized to Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ; there is no such thing as Jew or Greek, there is no such thing as slave or free, there is no such thing as male and female, for all of you are one in Christ Jesus."

  INCONTROVERTIBLE!
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  blondie

  144,000 ‘not defiled with women.’ In Revelation 14:1-4, the 144,000 described as standing with the Lamb on Mount Zion are said to have been “bought from the earth. These are the ones that did not defile themselves with women; in fact, they are virgins.” These are shown as having a more intimate relationship with the Lamb than any others do, being the only ones to master the “new song.” (Re 14:1-4) This would indicate that they make up the “bride” of the Lamb. (Re 21:9) They are spiritual persons, as revealed by the fact that they stand on the heavenly Mount Zion with the Lamb. Therefore their ‘not defiling themselves with women’ and their being “virgins” would not mean that none of these 144,000 persons had ever been married, for the Scriptures do not forbid persons on earth who are to be joint heirs with Christ to marry. (1Ti 3:2; 4:1, 3) Neither would it imply that all the 144,000 were men, for “there is neither male nor female” as far as the spiritual relationship of Christ’s joint heirs is concerned. (Ga 3:28) The “women” therefore must be symbolic women, doubtless religious organizations such as Babylon the Great and her ‘daughters,’ false religious organizations, the joining of and participation in which would prevent one from being spotless. (Re 17:5) This symbolic description harmonizes with the requirement in the Law that the high priest of Israel take only a virgin for his wife, for Jesus Christ is Jehovah’s great High Priest.​—Le 21:10, 14; 2Co 11:2; Heb 7:26. Insight Vol 2 p 1199
  
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  Perry

  Nice Topic for discussion.

  The Watchtower has the Church Age ending in 1914 ....that's their biggest problem in interpreting scripture.
  
  The 144K are future yet-to-be-seen Israelis, just like it says.

  “Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel” (Revelation 7:4)

  This fits the initial claim that the book of Revelation is about future events...prophecy. It would be illogical to assume this is a symbolic characterization of then-living Christians that extended until WT leaders effectively shut down the "Church Age" with their heretical 1914-gentile-times-has-ended teachings.

  Rather:
  
  1. The New Testament is still open for business (The WT claims the NT was written only for the 144K and that all positions are filled)

  2. All Christian believers (Christ Alone as their Mediator) are anointed, this is clear in scripture

  3. When the church age does near it's end, the rapture will take place and evacuate believers from earth in glorified bodies like Jesus had after his resurrection

  4. After this (or around this time) the temple in Jerusalem will be rebuilt and animal sacrifices will continue there (as they already have in the past few years nearby)

  5. 144,000 Israelis who "get it" will be preaching Jesus during the tribulation period leading up to Armageddon.

  The tribulation period is a future seven-year period of time in which God will allow human leaders (the Anti-Christ and his minions) a much greater reign of terror than has ever been previously seen. Their reign of terror is in a sense God's judgment against those who reject Him and will complete His plan of salvation for the nation of Israel.
  
  

  All of this is according to God’s revelation to the prophet Daniel (Daniel 9:24–27). The 144,000 Jews are a sort of “first fruits” (Revelation 14:4) of a redeemed Israel which has been previously prophesied (Zechariah 12:10; Romans 11:25–27), and their mission seems to be to evangelize the post-rapture world and proclaim the gospel during the tribulation period. As a result of their ministry, millions—“a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language” (Revelation 7:9)—will come to faith in Christ.

  Jesus will literally rule for 1000 years on the throne of David his fore-father from the re-built 3rd temple in Jerusalem. The modern nation of Israel will one day welcome their long-ago crucified King.
  
  1. Church-age believers will have glorified bodies. Although their citizenship is in heaven, they will doubtless be very active in governmental activities on and over earth. They will have physical bodies suitable for life in heaven and earth, like Jesus had. "We will be like him".

  2. Redeemed Israel and the "great multitude" (many other nation groups who survive the tribulation period) will continue living on earth as subjects of the King.
  
  This is the mainstream Christian view.
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  stillin

  I'll bet that a lot of those anointed sisters are looking forward to seeing each other with their beards grown out! Great for a laugh!
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  Pete Zahut

  Rev.14: 1-6 describes the 144000 as males who do not defile themselves with women and are classed as virgins.?

  This could explain why it has taken so long for this "wicked system" to end.
  
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  TheWonderofYou

  Gods mouthpiece said:

  And this holds true also in the way Jehovah selects those who are to be associated with his Son in the Kingdom government. How thankful the great crowd of other sheep can be that faithful women, such as Jesus’ mother Mary, Mary Magdalene, Priscilla, Tryphaena, Tryphosa, and a host of others IN THE EARLY Christian congregation (NOTE: not today) now share in the Kingdom rule, enriching that government with their intimate understanding of the feelings and experiences of womenfolk! What loving foresight and wisdom on Jehovah’s part"

  as well as

  These all must receive a change of nature at their resurrection, being made partakers together of “divine nature,” in which state none will be women, for there is no female sex among spirit creatures, sex being God’s means for reproduction of earthly creature

  Jehovahs heavenly women ip-2 223-224 have no female sex, so the husbandly owner will change the sex of women into male to mix them up into the divine nature.

  But how can the no resureccted male-women have further the same intimate feelings in exectuing the kingdom rule governance, if they are not any longer women?. Wouldnt such trans-women who are ruling with Christ in the Rulership be to nice, to caring and to compassionate and compete with the male-sex rulers, who are also called "heavenly woman" funnily enought also they are male? What is better a women-attitude or a male-attitude in kingdom governance?

  But obvioulsy the are only enriching the male governance (womenfolk), but not deciding what men will do, they will further subordinate themselves under the male rulership, which is only called "heavenly woman", to play a kind of love to the great crowd, a love that will not really be reflected in the rulership of the princes in the new system/world. How could the womenfolk ever decide?