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defender of truth5 minutes ago
I agree with punk.
Just appreciate/don't appreciate the articles or videos he does, and leave it at that. That's my view.
One look at this page can tell you that he has serious emotional issues.. I will leave it there, as I am not going to waste time critiquing or mocking such...again, words fail me.
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/my-response-to-the-haters-and-why-i-cant-always-shake-it-off
Basically, just take anything to do with internet-based flame wars between anyone with a pinch of salt. (ex-Jehovah's witnesses or otherwise, it makes no difference).
You'll likely never get the 100% facts of the matter from either side, so it is a waste of the one short and precious life that we have, to even attempt to do so.
Mind your own business.
Ignore any haters.
Otherwise, you too might end up like Cedars...
(My thought for the day )"
Fair enough...I agree...like/dislike the content not the presenter...we don't know personally the presenter...
BUT it is never as simple as that...
When more than a few people post comments on his site, Redddit or here with the motive of helping his videos to reach a wider audience or to improve them somehow and get shot down by Cedars consistently because he cannot take any criticism and that he is always right then HE makes it personal. HE is creating divides, HE is creating those against him because of his nature and that becomes part of whether you like his content.
I made a kind suggestion on Reddit that to improve his excellent Child Abuse video to reach a wider and more professional audience where in that he applies basic 101 Advertising in that presentation of the material simply makes a huge difference ie comb your hair and trim your beard.
I'm scruffy looking...but I'm not putting myself in the public's view with activism but HE is...yet when you try and help his goal by suggesting things he views it as a personal attack and has a go back.
I've had repeated examples of this with Cedars and other people have too...what this does is, even though you like the content you know based on past experience what kind of man he is and that sours your view of his content and therefore creates "camps".
Some of us are mature enough to keep the "person" and "content" separate but as I say it is not easy or simple for us all....
I still maintain Cedars site was at its optimum, for those who are still in and are nearing to coming out, when he was in covert mode before his DA.
Since then his content has changed dramatically to the point where a JW will say "bitterly mentally diseased apostate" and walk away from his site.
I get he is not producing content for that audience and he seems to want to target the audience who are already out and like to have it affirmed that the WT are not "the truth" but with that, adding the atheist point of view, is creating himself problems.
With a young family and depression that is never a good mix...
Cedars has been unfairly attacked by a few individuals but a lot of his "haters" are coming from how the man is himself...something he himself can control...
My two cents...I love his videos...do not like his attitude sometimes...keep them separate and all is well.