It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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  Athanasius

  There is one question about Lloyd that is very interesting. Why didn't he record his JC meeting with the elders and the Branch representative? Since the Watchtower is very strict regarding the confidentiality of JC meetings, we only have Lloyd's version about what transpired. And according to him the reason for the meeting was Apostasy.

  However, in view of Lloyd's history of distorting the facts and outright lying, can one honestly accept his version as the truth? If Apostasy was discussed during the JC, perhaps it was only one of several issues that the elders had with Lloyd. So what was discussed at the JC meeting that Lloyd doesn't want his followers to know about?
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  TonusOH

  Evans made a video before he entered the JC, explaining that he would not record it because he had nothing to hide, which makes zero sense. "I have nothing to hide" is the explanation you use for recording such a meeting. He claimed that his JC was for apostasy, an outcome that fits much better with his self-image as an exJW activist working to expose the organization. It certainly sounds better than, well...

  In his book, he tells of the time that his wife found his phone with messages showing that he was 'sexting girls online.' He explains that this was not the first time she had discovered him doing so. He has other stories in his books which paint him as something of a perverted creep. One could easily imagine that the judicial committee wanted to learn more about what he would later term his inability to master his penis. Alas, we can't ever know for certain because he refused to record it. But which one sounds more plausible?
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  raymond frantz

  After having been instructed from his elder dad to escape Wilmslow to avoid this kind of judicial committee in the UK by Bethelite Reps this meeting followed him in Croatia. You can say whatever you like about the JW judicial system but they are proficient at chasing you around the globe if they think that you are liability. So that judicial committee was orchestrated by the UK Bethel that contacted the Croatian Bethel and got the ball rolling. His apostasy was just a camouflage for his online audience that totally fell for it and some still to this day finance his appalling behaviour.
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  Simon

  Yeah, we'll probably never know what the reality was but one thing we DO know for certain - he absolutely did have something to fucking hide otherwise he would have recorded it. It makes no sense to say you have nothing to hide and then hide things! It was his chance to go out with a sensational video piece, and he took a pass for no reason whatsoever? It doesn't make sense.

  What are the chances that when his subsequent sexual behavior was uncovered, it would be along the same lines as the allegations made about him years before, which would explain so so many things.
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  Las Malvinas son Argentinas

  Yeah, we'll probably never know what the reality was but one thing we DO know for certain - he absolutely did have something to fucking hide otherwise he would have recorded it.

  The Lloyd Evans JC of 2013 is like the exJW version of the JFK assassination.

  Like the Warren Commission, his stated version makes little sense and has so many plot holes and leads that were never followed.

  If Apostasy was discussed during the JC, perhaps it was only one of several issues that the elders had with Lloyd.

  Precisely. I’m sure apostasy was one of the reasons he was summoned. But it wasn’t the only reason. Was Lee Harvey Oswald involved in the JFK assassination? Absolutely. But was he the lone gunman, and no one else knew what he was up to? We are meant to believe he was, just as Lloyd Evans was buttering up his audience with tales of apostasy in preparation for his JC.

  You really had to be there following him on FB at the time. The initial announcement that he was being summoned was followed by update after update like he was reporting for the BBC.

  Would Dijana be summoned too?

  Would Lloyd appeal the decision?

  How do the in-laws figure into this, and could the poor Evans couple with a child on the way be on the street!?!

  Stay tuned!

  You know what else happened? Tonnes of messages of solidarity and support, a bunch of “go get ‘em Lloyd, we have your back!!”

  It was like the finale of Lost or The Sopranos, everyone wanted to know what happened. And like The Sopranos, Lloyd went to a black screen before the action began.

  (Spoiler Alert) Tony Soprano got shot and the Wilmslow incident(s) followed Lloyd into the Sisak JC.

  I’m telling you if he recorded that JC it would still be getting views today. He’d be doing livestreams on it on the anniversary dates complete with new commentary.

  Why didn’t he record it and just delete the inconvenient parts?

  What if comparatively little of it was about the apostasy, enough to make an abridged recording untenable?
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  DerekMoors

  My two cents... framing everything around his apostasy makes him sound like the brave little soldier going against the big bad dragon of WT. "Oh, WT was so afraid of me blowing the lid off their secrets, they were quaking in their boots at what I might do..." He's played that same card over the years repeatedly... remember when the Charity Commission was investigating and he posted something about how he called them and was telling them to do their job or he'd go to the media or some drivel. In reality, they had to do their job according to certain regulations, they can't go riding in guns blazing. But he acted like they were so pathetic and he was this big shot threat to their work.

  Same with COC. He was this innocent, brave soldier, trying so hard to get this cure for cancer out there, not a greedy SOB who wanted to make money off something so important.

  Framing his JC around him being in trouble for sexting girl (underage or not) doesn't do anything. There's no glory in that. He's just another pervert who doesn't give two shits about his wife and can't control his dick.

  So I think that by not recording it, he can twist the entire subject however he wants. He's a brave apostate whose conscience wouldn't let him overlook WT's sins, not the stupid pervert who was DF'd for his own sins.
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  WingCommander

  Lloyd had "Nothing to hide!" and I bet actually DID record his JC.......then when he got up in it and they started uncovering his lewd sexual behavior, sexting young girls, etc......well then he switched it up and claimed that he didn't record it.

  He's a creepy weirdo pervert. Real shame Djiana fell for such a neck-bearded moron. It's also jaw-dropping how many suckers there are still paying his Patreon. When will the waters dry up?
  
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  Toblerone5

  Why didn't he record his JC meeting ...

  I know . According to his Youtube video (Dec 28 2013) : My judicial committee is tomorow -cedars' vlog no 10 ,he said That the JC was going to be Dec 29 2013 at 6 pm.

  The next day he did another video: An email from my dad,and my apostasy trial-cedars' vlog no.11 I had never seen that video so I watch it. In it he said the meeting only lasted 30 minutes . It was all about the subject of apostasy bla bla bla😴 Now I wonder could it be they started the meeting with that ,but then, they wanted to talk about "another matter" that had happened when he was back in the U.K. ? I assumed he must have been very mad , probably told them he would not talk about this with them , got up and left ? and that's why the JC only was 30 min. ? 🤷‍♀️

  Anyway the only thing in that video that made me laugh, 12 minutes in that video , after explaning how he didn't want the elders to tell the in-law to shun him and his wife ,they said they would only tell them what the bible said , Lloyd said the bible actually encourages families to stay together and doesn't talk about shunning then he went on a tangent about the prodigal son story I'm paraphrasing here ,he ask them why did the son went back home ? how did the father react ? then he said .and I quote :

  " I said the prodigal son went away and lived a life of debauchery having sex with prostitutes living a life of sin...

  Sorry I have a hard time laughing and writing at the same time here...

  He then went on a long and boring speech of the reaction of the elders. and finally he said the son went back cause he was hungry ... WRONG !

  ActuallyMister Evans , it's more that the son ran out of money to buy food ,( and prostitutes) he took a JOB to take care of some pigs , which for a Jew It's a very degrading job , was EATING with the pigs ...then the son had enough of that JOB , and he went back home begging to Work for his father .

  That's the real story of the prodigal son , and I can't beleived that Dumb Dumb here, told the story all wrong and even worst , none of the JW Dumber elders didn't correct him !

  Again Idiots !

  
  
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  DerekMoors

  Here's another YouTuber, around for a year, 100 videos, fewer than 6K subscribers, and is getting close to Lloyd's view numbers:

  https://www.youtube.com/@jwresearcherrose

  He's so goddamn irrelevant at this point.
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  Ron.W.