What will happen to the Watchtower Religion now that Trump has Withdrawn from certain aspects of the United Nations.

by liam 17 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  liam

  So Trump has signed an Executive Order to withdraw from the United Nations Human Rights Council, a Refugee Organization, some others parts as well and calls for a review of American involvement in Funding of the United Nations.

  He said the United Nations has not been living to its potential and they need to get their act together or just dissolve the organization completely.

  He said America will continue to be a part of the UN but it's tiring that the United States is the Country that funds most of the monies and that can't continue.

  I sent the news to a few JW friends, two of which are elders, and they said ABSOLUTELY WILL NEVER HAPPEN, BECAUSE JEHOVAH WILL NOT ALLOW IT.

  If in the future the United Nations is dissolved, will the Watchtower continue? How will they flip the Narrative if there is no United Nations to destroy the Harlot.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpNaz1DdOqw
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  joey jojo

  I don't know how they will flip the narrative - but flip it they will. 😀
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  Journeyman

  All these posts about what Trump's election will mean for the possible "UN rising to power" thing are far too premature and speculative at this stage.

  Any number of things could happen yet, from nothing at all (if Trump is unable to make the changes he wants, or if he can't make lasting change by the time he leaves office), to a complete change that might actually strengthen the UN in the long term by making it more accountable and effective, or to the complete dissolving of the UN - but the formation of a successor organisation that might be more effective too.

  On the WT specifically, they've changed teaching dramatically before, yet are still around.

  The 1914 "this generation" changes were more dramatic and fundamental to their teachings than this. They could easily modify the teaching about the UN to talk about a successor organisation (I'm sure there will be one if the UN collapses or is dissolved, as I don't believe the world will NOT form some kind of international governance body. The concept is too important in this modern, inter-connected world). Or even just an "alliance" of independent nations coming together, rather like the Allied powers that joined together in WWII.
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  Anony Mous

  The UN all but collapsed in the 90s with the wars in the Baltic where the UN would stand idly by while atrocities happened.

  It is a forum for politicians to get some cheap wins and funnel trillions of dollars from rich nations to warlords and terrorists.

  The UN is based in an international socialist ideal that you can centralize power into a superstate and arrange the affairs of the nations. It just doesn’t work like that.
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  liam

  The 1914 "this generation" changes were more dramatic and fundamental to their teachings than this.

  That's true. If the Generation changes didn't wake up the entire membership of jws.....NOTHING WILL!

  It is a forum for politicians to get some cheap wins and funnel trillions of dollars from rich nations to warlords and terrorists. ....The UN is based in an international socialist ideal that you can centralize power into a superstate and arrange the affairs of the nations. It just doesn’t work like that.

  I never really gave it some thought, but you are spot on. This is what the United Nations is all about. It"s not about starting Armageddon to the world or about DESTROYING ALL RELIGION like the JWs believe.

  Poor JWs, their hope is based on an interpretation of a Harlot riding a wild beast, written some 2000 years ago. Millions of them have sacrificed everything, family, career, retirement, Their Actual Life, to keep 10 old men in an ivory tower, whom they never met, never sat down with them to determined if they are true or just some wacky old deluded men who believe they are going to rule the Entire Universe.

  When you stop and think about it for a few minutes, it's so crazy that we as humans can easily be tricked to believe such impossible things without any proof. Why do we as Humans have that tenancy?

  How many Humans do we know that are still alive and have lived at least 1000 years? NONE! Everyone dies. Tops, maybe some get to live close to 120 years, but that's not a life anymore, that's just torture.

  There is no proof that humans can live forever. How would God expect us to believe him if he didn't show us the proof that humans can live forever? It's because God isn't there, which is hard to BELIEVE, but the evidence is there that God either has no interest in human and animal life or HE just isn't there. Something that we Humans just can't comprehend. In Both cases God will not intervene and grant a certain group of people everlasting life. It's either ALL or NO ONE, considering all humans are his children.
  

  There a difference between what a person believes vs what can be proven with evidence.

  A person can believe ANYTHING HE WANTS, but actually proving it, not with Human evidence like books and human witnesses, but with ACTUAL DIVINE PROOF........there is NO DIVINE PROOF.

  So much for the Harlot riding the Wild beast.

  

  
  
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  nowwhat?

  I said this from the get go. Trump's America first mantra is the opposite of the U.N. agenda. When the org. Made this adjustment they were counting on Kamala winning. The Democrats do have a globalist agenda which would only work with a weakened, less influential U.S. and they were well on their way to accomplish under Biden. Too bad you can't bet on watchtower prophecies I'd be rich betting against them!
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  KerryKing

  It will be very interesting to see how JWs explain their prophecy if the UN does dissolve!

  Maybe scholars were right all along, the harlot was Rome, and Revelation was fulfilled 2000 years ago.
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  Duran

  Trump said everything that needs to be known about his view of the UN.

  2:15min – 4:10min (video above)

  So, I have always felt that the UN has tremendous potential, it's not living up to the potential right now...there are great hopes for it...it has great potential...the potential of the UN is fantastic if properly run...that’s the kind of power it could have, right now it does not have that kind of power. - Trump

  Rev17:13; 13:5

  [Revelation Climax – As John soon learns, the time will come when the UN will act with considerable authority. Then it, in its turn, “goes off into destruction.”]

  [6-15-12 WT – Any power it (U.N.) has comes from its member nations, especially from its key backer, the Anglo-American World Power. But it does receive authority to act as a king to carry out a specific task,]

  Bush Sr. New World Order Speech (rare) - YouTube

  
  
  
  
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  Rattigan350

  What is a Watchtower Religion?
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  DesirousOfChange

  Nothing will happen.

  Most JWs have no idea what you are talking about!

  Most JWs have no idea what they believe.