Maths Virus 1914

by Anna Marina 33 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Anna Marina
    Anna Marina

    This is my latest video. It is Part 1 of a series that reveals the mathematical trickery Watchtower uses to con people about the 1914 doctrine. It takes a radically different approach to that of Carl Olof Jonsson who dealt with dates.

    This video focusses on how Watchtower misuses the numbers in scriptures and creates a mental fog that prevents people from understanding and therefore prevents them from challenging.

    The full title of the video is Maths Virus - Revealing the Antivirus to 1914

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlKmrul3aFg

  • Slidin Fast
    Slidin Fast

    Marked

  • Anna Marina
    Anna Marina

    Thank you :)

    When I saw your comment I immediately thought of when when I got marked by the elders. Miserable lot. Yes they marked me for sticking to the Bible. Great huh?

  • Harry
    Harry

    Well done Anna ,

    JWS are not witnesses for Jehovah, they are witnesses for the Watchtower Corporation and its version of Jesus's gospel of a new Kingdom order.

    The leading men of the WTS (GB) were apostate false prophet sinners, as they still are to this day.

    Jesus said no one knows of time not even he, more than 500 years after the fall of ancient Jerusalem, just to add and confirm that its scripturaly immoral for humanity to set a date on their own appealing discretion.

    Being opposed to Jesus's instructions for preaching his Gospel is never going to make an individual or an organization righteous in his eyes.

  • waton
    waton

    H:

    Yeah, the father ("Jesus" did not use the name bse) has put time in his own jurisdiction (as even Einstein found out) and any one trying to "change time and seasons," or make change, or $s out of it, is in trouble, troubled.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    Great video Anna Marina.

    Well done.

    Let's see how scholarJW holds up to this video.

  • Anna Marina
    Anna Marina

    Hi Beth - and thank you.

    When you see it laid out it is brilliant how 19+14 takes them down. The issue they are faced with is that 19+14 =33.

    It's the 19th year of Nebuchadnezzar plus 14 years after (see Ezekiel 40:1)

    In the later videos in the series you'll see what happened when I tried to get an elder to go through this with me.

  • scholar
    scholar

    Anna Marina

    You claim or imply in your video that Jer.25:1 and Dan.1: are synchronistic, relating to the same event which is nonsense. Jer. 25: 1;46:2 simply deal with events in Jehoiakim's reign dealing with the Babylonian incursion into Syria-Palestine under Nebuchadnezzer whereas Dan1:1 deals with the first deportation by Nebuchadnezzar during the three years of his vassalage to the king of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar which would have begun in Jehoiakim's' 8th regnal year, for this reason, NWT translates the relevant passage in Da.1:1 as the 'third year of his kingship rather than 'reign' which brings into line with the biblical record of this period of history.

    Thus, both verses refer to different events in Late Judean history and must not be conflated which results in a major chronological error.

    scholar JW

  • Harry
    Harry

    There is a lot of engaging documented history of Jehoiakim which once again makes the WTS's date of 607 BCE utter nonsense.

    The so called WTS's bible scholars which they really weren't, were liars just trying to turn 1914 into something that wasn't, 1914 first came about by the WTS theology through Pyramidology.

    Jehoiakim was appointed king by Necho II, king of Egypt, in 609 BC, after Necho's return from the battle in Haran, three months after he had killed King Josiah at Megiddo.[4] Necho deposed Jehoiakim's younger brother Jehoahaz after a reign of only three months and took him to Egypt, where he died. Jehoiakim ruled originally as a vassal of the Egyptians, paying a heavy tribute. To raise the money he "taxed the land and exacted the silver and gold from the people of the land according to their assessments."[5]

    However, after the Egyptians were defeated by the Babylonians at the battle of Carchemish in 605 BC, Nebuchadnezzar II besieged Jerusalem, and Jehoiakim changed allegiances to avoid the destruction of Jerusalem. He paid tribute from the treasury in Jerusalem, some temple artifacts, and handed over some of the royal family and nobility as hostages.[4] In the Book of Daniel, Daniel is described as being one of these.

    Rabbinical literature describes Jehoiakim as a godless tyrant who committed atrocious sins and crimes. He is portrayed as living in incestuous relations with his mother, daughter-in-law, and stepmother, and was in the habit of murdering men, whose wives he then violated and whose property he seized. He also had tattooed his body.[1]

    The prophet Jeremiah criticised the king's policies, insisting on repentance and strict adherence to the law.[6] Another prophet, Uriah ben Shemaiah, proclaimed a similar message and Jehoiakim ordered his execution (Jeremiah 26:20–23).[7]

    Jehoiakim continued for three years as a vassal to the Babylonians, until the failure of an invasion of Egypt in 601 BC undermined their control of the area. Jehoiakim switched allegiance back to the Egyptians.[4] In late 598 BC, the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar II invaded Judah and again laid siege to Jerusalem, which lasted three months. Jehoiakim died before the siege ended.[2] The Book of Chronicles recorded that "Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon ... bound him in fetters, to carry him to Babylon."[8] Jeremiah prophesied that he died without proper funeral, describing the people of Judah "shall not lament for him, saying, 'Alas, master!' or 'Alas, his glory!' He shall be buried with the burial of a donkey, dragged and cast out beyond the gates of Jerusalem" (Jeremiah 22:18–19) "and his dead body shall be cast out to the heat of the day and the frost of the night" (Jeremiah 36:30).[9] Josephus wrote that Nebuchadnezzar slew Jehoiakim along with high-ranking officers and then commanded Jehoiakim's body "to be thrown before the walls, without any burial."[10]

    He was succeeded by his son Jeconiah (also known as Jehoiachin).[3] After three months, Nebuchadnezzar deposed Jeconiah (fearing that he would avenge his father's death by revolting, according to Josephus[11]) and installed Zedekiah, Jehoiakim's younger brother, as king in his place. Jeconiah, his household, and much of Judah's population were exiled to Babylon.[12]

    According to the Babylonian Chronicles,[13] Jerusalem fell on 2 Adar (16 March) 597 BC. The Chronicles state:

    The seventh year (of Nebuchadnezzar – 598 BC.) in the month Chislev (Nov/Dec) the king of Babylon assembled his army, and after he had invaded the land of Hatti (Syria/Palestine) he laid siege to the city of Judah. On the second day of the month of Adar (16 March) he conquered the city and took the king (Jeconiah) prisoner. He installed in his place a king (Zedekiah) of his own choice, and after he had received rich tribute, he sent (them) forth to Babylon.[14]

  • Jeffro
    Jeffro
    It appears that the video does not properly account for the fact that the author of Daniel does not count accession years, whereas the author of Jeremiah does. Both verses refer to events in the same (Nisan-based) year, but the events of Daniel 1:1 (January/February 604 BCE) actually come some months after those of Jeremiah 25:1 (September 605 BCE).

    I have not watched the other video parts (they don't seem to exist?), though I fear that if it goes in the direction of taking '19' and '14' from '1914' and using those figures for some purpose during Nebuchadnezzar's reign, then that would constitute an equivocation fallacy. (This might be okay if it is used as a mnemonic only rather than asserting some special significance.)

    (It's not even worth bothering to deal with the erroneous drivel offered by 'scholar'. His suggestion that 'kingship' means something other than reign is entirely false as the term in the original text is the word for 'reign' and has nothing to do with vassalage.)

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