by Sea Breeze 17 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Kaleb,
Thanks as always for your input. It is always interesting to hear things from a Jewish point of view. A point of view, which, I hasten to add, should always be considered - as after all, it was your people who compiled the writings of the Old Testament. (Something, which, in the “Fog of War”, seems to have completely lost sight of!)
Over on the Reddit forum..
There is a subheading about if asked if they were asked to kill nonJWs.
I forget the exact wording of the subheading.
But if JWs were asked to do something if asked by the GB,, including killing people,,,,without hesitation the $heeples would do it.
That's how dangerous mind control is.
I personally don't think there is such a thing as orthodox Jews today in the original sense of the word. Back in the day, the Essenes were the orthodox Jews, the Saducees were the secularists and the Pharisees were the professional religionists that held their elders meetings to determine how to interpret scripture. Dr. Ken Johnson has translated a lot of the dead sea scrolls, and his work really opens the door to what was going on in the Jewish community before and after the time of Christ.
The past president of the Flat Earth Society was an evolutionist. I'm sure it was just a coincidence.
Sea Breeze--You just made up your entire post about the Jews. Like my grandmother used to say, the world is filled with unmarried marriage counselors.
"Orthodox" Jews only came into existence in the modern era once the Reform Jewish movement began in 1810. They did not exist before.
They are considered "Orthodox" only in the West, in the United States of America, for the most part due to the fact that Jews in the USA who did not join the Reform movement were labeled "Orthodox" by members in the Reform group who used to make fun of them.
This group further divided among themselves according to how they viewed Jewish tradition and application of Jewish law, the first significant division forming the Conservative Movement (meaning the group in the middle or "in between," the "so-called" Orthodox and the Reform). The movement is called "Masorti" in the UK.
A minor but significant branch would later influence all of modern Judaism via its founder, a small denomination known as Reconstructionism. After that a significant number of practicing atheist and agnostic Jews in various synagogues would begin a movement known as Secular Humanistic Judaism in 1966.
"Orthodox" Jews are actually called Haredi or simply "religious" Jews and are themselves divided into several movements, such as the Chasidim and the Modernist.
All of these are actually part of just one group of the Jewish culture, namely the Ashkenazi, the lighter skinned Jews of Eastern Europe origin. I am Sephardic, the darker skinned type of Middle Eastern origin, and we have no such denominational divisions.
Ashkenazi make up about 80% of the Jewish population in the US, but not in Israel where the numbers are equal. In the world, the Ashkenazi are outnumbered as along with other groups like the Mizrahi Jews, Ashkenazi are actually not as significant as they seem in the West.
In Israel, Jews are called merely "religious" or "secular," not "Orthodox" or otherwise.
Rattigan350
Evolution can't explain reproduction.
Evolution can't explain how the need to cleans blood altered DNA to create 2 kidneys on each side of the body. Then they started filtering and the output went where? Just in the body and the people died from sepsis?
Then the DNA got the idea that it needs to direct the bad things out of the body so it created uterers down. Then those uterers merged in a bladder that hadn't evolved yet because there was no need. Then the bladder got full and got backed up and people died. Then the DNA got the idea that it needs to mutate to create a urethra and send it out the body. Why not just use the penis as it has a hole in it for semen and sperm? And for women just make a hole to go out.
That's nuts. DNA can't think and mutations can created such precise organs.
This process happened over billions of years. That is almost an incomprehensible amount of time. It didnt start with fully-formed kidneys, or cocks, or whatever. Macro and micro forces create winners and losers.
Kaleb,
Once again, well said - particularly when dealing with a non subject matter expert!
Sea Breeze, I'm with you on this. Genetic programming is no accident. Universal law of cause and effect specifically states that every single action in the universe produces an action, no matter what. Every single effect within our world, upon our earth, has a cause, an original starting point: "Causality is an influence by which one event, process, state, or object (a cause) contributes to the production of another event, process, state, or object (an effect) where the cause is at least partly responsible for the effect, and the effect is at least partly dependent on the cause. The cause of something may also be described as the reason for the event or process" (Wiki).
Genetic programming is no accident.
Of course it's no accident. Anyone who objectively looks at the data knows this.
Geneticist John Sanford - author of Genetic Entropy: and one of the editors of Biological Information: - addressing the prestigous National Institute of Health.
Dr. Sanford, longtime Cornell Professor and author of hundreds of peer reviewed papers started out as an evoltionist, indoctrinated as we all were in public school to accept the standard evolution line. The man is a national treasure with some of his work and inventions featured at the Smithsonian Institute.
Starting at the 20:20 minute mark, Dr. Sanford explains how, using very liberal and accomodating population sizes, number of offspring, and other factors, the best "evolution" could do is to produce ONE eight letter genetic word every 18 Billion years! That's longer than the supposed age of the universe. Evolutionists have run out of billions of years.
Will they find more, or just go into denial?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqIjnol9uh8&t=1s
