The End of the Times of the Gentiles and the Restoration of the Kingdom

by EisMe 41 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • EisMe
    EisMe
    AbaddonProvesItan hour ago
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    EisMe,
    I do not believe in or teach the date of 1914, in any shape or form . . . you are greatly mistaken. I rejected this false teaching many years ago.

    Having read through your link, I agree with much of what you've written. Please consider everything I have shared, as I stand by its truth. I was baptized as a Jehovah's Witness at 18. While their teachings are about 70% accurate, their confusion stems from misinterpreting prophecy, which detracts from the core message of what it means to be a Christian.

    Their most accurate teaching is that YHWH is the only true God, and His son, Jesus Christ, is precisely that—His son. This directly contradicts the Trinity Doctrine, which was formulated at the Council of Nicaea (325 AD) and later refined at the Council of Chalcedon (451 AD).

    The faithful and wise servant is another concept they teach, but their interpretation is flawed. This holds true—the faithful and wise servant is out of the congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses. However, their commitment to conforming to scripture and avoiding worldly attachments sets them apart in The Almighty’s eyes.

    In 2003, I informed the Governing Body that I am the True Slave—a claim they never acknowledged. Now, I intend to reach out to them again with a letter and corrected interpretations of prophecy, offering them an opportunity to rethink their positions.

    My purpose is to serve as a witness for The Almighty. He always proves His truth through His witnesses. While I am not all-knowing, my life experiences validate my identity.

    You are to be commended for seeking truth and correcting inaccuracies. I know what is coming, but I do not claim to understand how every event will unfold. Like all of us, I must maintain strong faith to endure what is written.

    Do not fear the unknown—place complete faith in The Almighty God, YHWH. He and Jesus Christ are here to rescue us, not destroy us.

    Peace!

  • AbaddonProvesIt
    AbaddonProvesIt

    Hi EisMe,

    Thanks for your response above.

    You mentioned you were baptized at the age of 18.

    Do you mind sharing what year was that, exactly?

    ...just curious.(smile)

    Also, I would appreciate a scriptural response to the article I directed you to earlier, at this link: https://livingwatersforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=968

    Surely, if you are truly the "Faithful & Discreet Slave/Wise Servant" of Matthew 24:45-47, I know you can handle that request . . . scripturally-speaking. (See 1 Peter 3:15.)

    Thanks in advance.

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  • TonusOH
    TonusOH

    EisMe: and soon, this corrupt system will crumble.

    ...said every failed prophet for the past two thousand years.

  • EisMe
    EisMe
    AbaddonProvesItan hour ago
    Hi EisMe,
    Thanks for your response above.
    You mentioned you were baptized at the age of 18.
    Do you mind sharing what year was that, exactly?
    ...just curious.(smile)
    Also, I would appreciate a scriptural response to the article I directed you to earlier, at this link: https://livingwatersforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=968
    Surely, if you are truly the "Faithful & Discreet Slave/Wise Servant" of Matthew 24:45-47, I know you can handle that request . . . scripturally-speaking. (See 1 Peter 3:15.)
    Thanks in advance.
    Certainly, It was in the year of 1979, the year my son was born. I will look into your link and look for what you need a response to an answer accordingly.
    E.
  • EisMe
    EisMe
    TonusOH33 minutes agoEisMe: and soon, this corrupt system will crumble.
    ...said every failed prophet for the past two thousand years.

    I realize this, but we are in a different time period. And unless everyone has been sleeping, you should know we are in disturbing times, aren't we?

    E.

  • EisMe
    EisMe
    AbaddonProvesit. Here is your reponse. Are you Donald C. Burney, the author of the article? Just curious."

    Jesus' Lineage & the Law of Moses

    1️ Jesus’ Lineage Through Mary

    The Bible provides two genealogies for Jesus:

    • Matthew 1:1-17 traces lineage through Joseph.
    • Luke 3:23-38 is understood to trace Mary’s lineage, showing descent from King David through Nathan (another son of David).

    Luke 3:23 states that Jesus was "the son, as was supposed, of Joseph, the son of Heli." Many scholars believe Heli was actually Mary’s father, making Joseph his son-in-law rather than his biological son. This would mean Jesus had a biological connection to David through Mary, fulfilling the prophecy that the Messiah would come from David’s house.

    Although Elizabeth, Mary’s relative, was from the tribe of Levi, Mary herself is consistently associated with Judah, ensuring Jesus’ rightful place in David’s lineage.

    2️ Adoption & Jewish Law

    Under Jewish law, lineage is primarily determined by the father. However, adoption does not erase a child's biological genealogy. In cases where a man legally adopts a son, the son is recognized under his adoptive father’s name, but his tribal lineage remains tied to his biological descent.

    This is particularly relevant for Jesus:

    • While Joseph legally adopted Jesus, Jesus’ bloodline would still be traced through Mary to David.
    • This ensures that Jesus remains within Judah’s tribal lineage, fulfilling Messianic prophecy.

    3️ Does This Disprove Jesus as Messiah?

    The syllogism in the article argues that Jesus cannot be the Messiah of Daniel 9:24-25 because he did not descend from Adam & Eve in the usual manner. However:

    • Genesis 3:15 does not specify that Messiah must be conceived in a standard biological way—it only states that the “seed” of the woman will crush the serpent’s head.
    • Jesus’ miraculous birth does not remove his humanity or disqualify him from Adam’s lineage if his mother, Mary, carried that genetic heritage.
    • Since Jewish law recognizes lineage through biological descent, Jesus qualifies as Messiah through his mother, and his adoption by Joseph strengthens his rightful claim to David’s throne.

    Therefore, the argument that Jesus cannot be Messiah based on lineage does not hold when examined through Jewish law and Messianic prophecy.

    4️ Reverence for YHWH’s Holy Name

    The Almighty God YHWH (יהוה), the Ancient of Days, is the Creator of all things and worthy of our deepest reverence. His Son, Jesus, perfectly fulfilled His will, offering redemption through His words and deeds. Jesus revealed YHWH’s boundless love and righteousness, drawing all who seek truth closer to their Creator.

    I do not use the traditional name of Jehovah, as the pronunciation of His name is unknown. This lays a foundation for His name to be sanctified and unblemished. Jesus is also given a name only He knows, in the like manner of God Almighty (Revelation 19:12).

    5️ On My Own Lineage & Calling

    My name is Estephan Leuese, and my life has been shaped by extraordinary visions and divine encounters that affirmed my faith and purpose. These experiences culminated in a profound encounter with Almighty God, the Ancient of Days, who bore witness to the truth that I was chosen. (Hebrews 2:3-4; Isaiah 43:10)

    Overwhelmed by His divine presence, I received His message: “Do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing.” This phrase, drawn from Matthew 6:3-4 in the Sermon on the Mount, encourages practicing acts of kindness, faith, and righteousness humbly and discreetly, seeking no recognition or praise. In this spirit, I share these truths not to elevate myself, but solely to glorify Him and emphasize the urgency of these times.

    6️ The Significance of My Name

    My name, which was given to me by YHWH (Isaiah 62:2), carries profound symbolism and divine purpose:

    • Este signifies a journey “out of the East.”
    • Phan refers to “the land of elephants.”
    • Leu is tied to the Hebrew name Levi, meaning “joined,” honoring the priestly tribe of Levi.
    • Ese resonates with the names Jesus and Jesse, symbolizing kingship.

    Together, these elements align with the name Immanuel—“God with us”—and create a connection to Jesus. Remarkably, reversing the name Immanuel forms “Leu Nam Mi,” meaning “My name is Leuese.” Every layer of this name reflects a mission imbued with divine purpose

    Estephan Leuese

  • AbaddonProvesIt
    AbaddonProvesIt

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    Yes, I am Donald C. Burney.

    EisMe, I have a few questions about your review of this written material.

    But before that, please understand this one very, very important point that I am making in this article, and it is this: Jesus, God's "only-begotten" Son, is without a doubt, the" Messiah" of the first century that God Almighty sent to earth . . . I agree with that fact, no problem. But what I am saying, he is just not . . . not the "Messiah" of particularly Daniel 9:24, 25. That's the point of the article, that I am making.

    First off, let's review.

    Here is what was actually written in the above mentioned article.

    See Link to actual article: https://lBut before that ivingwatersforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=968

    A SYLLOGISTIC ARGUMENT ABOUT THE COMING "MESSIAH"
    (DANIEL 9:24, 25)

    [Article originally taken from CrossingEuphrates.com Discussion Board]

    To get more information on this topic, please see this link: https://jehovahstruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16

    A Syllogism is a kind of logical argument that applies deductive reasoning to arrive at a conclusion based on two propositions that are asserted or assumed to be true. In its earliest form, a syllogism arises when two true premises validly imply a conclusion, or the main point that the argument aims to get across. -- Wikipedia

    Syllogism

    1: a formal argument consisting of a major and a minor premise and a conclusion (as in "every virtue is laudable; kindness is a virtue; therefore kindness is laudable")

    2: deductive reasoning

    SYLLOGISM - PROPOSITION - PROPOSAL CONCERNING MESSIAH

    1) Per Genesis 3:15 "Messiah" is to come from Adam & Eve. Jehovah is speaking here a prophecy, the first prophecy in the bible, and He made this point very, very clear. This is the Major Premise.

    2) Jesus did NOT come from or actually descend from Adam & Eve. (Joseph clearly had no part in the physical birth of Jesus. Jehovah Himself made that impossible. This means Mary was a "surrogate" mother. -- See Matthew 1:20-25) This makes this birth, a miraculous birth. This is the Minor Premise.

    A. Psalms 45:16 (Did Jesus actually have earthly "forefathers"?)

    B. Psalms 89:27 (Messiah is "firstborn" among mankind. But, . ..is this true of Jesus?
    Was not Jesus "firstborn" from heavens, "firstborn from all creation," not earth? Jesus does not need to be "appointed," "made to be" or "placed to be" "firstborn" . . . he does not need to be given or accredited this position. He has this, naturally. (See Colossians 1:15.)

    3) Therefore, Jesus CANNOT be The "Messiah" of Daniel 9th chapter.

    Additionally, consider this:

    Daniel 9:24, 25 says Messiah was to "bring in righteousness for times indefinite" or "brings everlasting righteousness" to earth, at the end of "Seventy Weeks." Can we really say, Jesus actually did this?

    Someone else has been appointed by The "Most High" (Psalms 83:18) to carry this out, and fulfill this grand prophecy. (See Genesis 3:15; Isaiah 49:1-7.)

    Think about it.

    Article written by: Donald C. Burney

    To get a more indepth, extensive approach to this topic, please see this link: http://www.yorww.com/mistake.html

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  • AbaddonProvesIt
    AbaddonProvesIt

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    EisMe,

    . . . once you figure out the gist and true meaning of Genesis 3:15 and Daniel 9:24, 25, and who it truly applies to, then you will come to understand who is going to genuinely appoint the "Faithful & Discreet Slave" of Matthew 24:45-47.

    Think about it.

    Now . . . a few questions are coming shortly from me, about your above review of the article in question.

    Thanks.

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  • Jeffro
    Jeffro

    EisMe:

    A firm belief in God is not superstition. It is reality.

    🤦‍♂️

    A firm belief that something is real in the absence of evidence is the very definition of superstition.

    Superstitious nutters maintain mutually exclusive beliefs about God (and related nonsense like esoteric ‘end times’ interpretations), all based on nothing but ‘faith’. They can’t all be right. But they can all be wrong.

  • AbaddonProvesIt
    AbaddonProvesIt

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    EisMe,

    At Daniel 9:24-25 (ESV) we read:

    The Seventy Weeks

    24 “Seventy weeks[a] are decreed about your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to put an end to sin, and to atone for iniquity, TO BRING IN EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS, to seal both vision and prophet, and to anoint a most holy place.[b] 25 Know therefore and understand that from the going out of the word to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of an anointed one, a prince, there shall be seven weeks. Then for sixty-two weeks it shall be built again[c] with squares and moat, but in a troubled time.

    As "Faithful & Discreet Slave," you stated you believe Jesus fulfilled the prophecy of Daniel 9:24, 25. So, my beginning questions to you would be as follows:

    First off, in discussing the "70 week" prophecy of Daniel 9:24, 25, we must establish a definite beginning of this particular prophetic period of time and a definite end to this important time period.

    1) So my first question to you would be, when do you say this particular prophecy begins and also, when does it end?

    Do you have a specific time-table for this prophecy?

    2) The prophecy also states that within "70 Weeks," the promised "Messiah" is to personally, "bring in EVERLASTING RIGHTEOOUSNESS" to the earth.

    Therefore based upon that clear statement, can we say this specifically, has been or was accomplished upon the earth, by the end of Jesus' earthly ministry in the first century, as well as the END of the "70 weeks" prophetic period?

    In other words, when did Jesus fulfill these prophetic words, and did its fulfillment occur within the designated "70 week" period?

    How would you respond to the above questions.

    I have more questions, but I will await your response.

    Thanks.

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