Jehovah and Pleiades

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  • Acluetofindtheuser
    Acluetofindtheuser

    This belief of Rutherford sounds like it was conceived from the fantasy novel Angels and Women published in 1924, which was based on an earlier novel entitled Seola in 1878. The WT had Seola refined to their liking and was then republished in 1924. Look at the difference between the two books with regard to the Great Center of which Rutherford was talking about, particularly the star Alcyone.

    Angels and Women - 1924

    Now notice in the original version of Seola we find out how many stars surround the Great Center. For some reason Rutherford wanted the seven stars not to be mentioned in the edited version. This definitely makes a connection to the Pleiades constellation.

    Seola - 1878


  • blondie
    blondie

    "The face to the deep, of course, would be toward the Pleiades, which are claimed to be the habitation of Jehovah." Creation 1927 p.94

    The constellation of the Pleiades is a small one compared with others which scientific instruments disclose to the wondering eyes of man. But the greatness in size of other stars or planets is small when compared with the Pleiades in importance, because the Pleiades is the place of the eternal throne of God." Reconciliation p.14

    This doctrine was not discontinued until 1953.

    "Some attribute striking qualities to these constellations or star groups and on the basis of such they then offer private interpretations of Job 38:31, 32 that amaze their hearers. Their views are not always sound from the standpoint of astronomy, and when viewed Scripturally they are completely without foundation.... Hence it is useless to indulge in unprofitable speculations. Incidentally, Pleiades can no longer be considered the center of the universe and it would be unwise for us to try to fix God's throne as being at a particular spot in the universe. Were we to think of the Pleiades as his throne we might improperly view with special veneration that cluster of stars." Watchtower 1953 Nov 15 p.703


  • NotFormer
    NotFormer

    Blondie, one of those incidents where, rather than letting a doctrine simply fade away, they officially put it to rest.

    I wonder if it was actually causing trouble behind the scenes?

  • blondie
    blondie

    NotFormer, I was only 1 when that change was made. Some older witnesses from the pre-1953 time period were still alive then and did not seem to get the message, so it had to be made very, very clear. Vaccinations were allowed around 1950, but the WTS was very coy about revealing that. That is why this was changed in 1952. "

    ● Is vaccination a violation of God’s law forbidding the taking of blood into the system?—G. C., North Carolina.

    The matter of vaccination is one for the individual that has to face it to decide for himself. Each individual has to take the consequences for whatever position and action he takes toward a case of compulsory vaccination, doing so according to his own conscience and his appreciation of what is for good health and the interests of advancing God’s work. And our Society cannot afford to be drawn into the affair legally or take the responsibility for the way the case turns out.

    After consideration of the matter, it does not appear to us to be in violation of the everlasting covenant made with Noah, as set down in Genesis 9:4, nor contrary to God’s related commandment at Leviticus 17:10-14. Most certainly it cannot reasonably or Scripturally be argued and proved that, by being vaccinated, the inoculated person is either eating or drinking blood and consuming it as food or receiving a blood transfusion. Vaccination does not bear any relationship to or any likeness to the intermarriage of angelic “sons of God” with the daughters of men, as described in Genesis 6:1-4. Neither can it be put in the same class as described at Leviticus 18:23, 24, which forbids the mingling of humans with animals. It has nothing to do with sex relations.

    Hence all objection to vaccination on Scriptural grounds seems to be lacking." WT 1952 December 1952, p. 764

    (BTW, I knew some jws long after 1952 were still telling other jws that vaccinations were not allowed, probably why the WTS had to make it very clear that they were allowed, especially during the pandemic.

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