Cost of living crisis

by ExBethelitenowPIMA 23 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • FedUpJW
    FedUpJW

    This is from the letter posted here a few weeks ago. The letter itself was 7 pages long. As you can see WT passes the responsibility off to other true charities, and to government agencies. Damned hypocrites!

    United States – Resources for Distressed Households

    As of February 06, 2023

    The branch office does not endorse any of the following programs. Do not post this document publicly on any website, social media, or sharing service. The links will take you to various available resources including nonprofit and government agencies. Family heads will need to use discernment and carefully research these resources to determine whether the program is appropriate for their households and decide if they will avail themselves of such programs.


  • LongHairGal
    LongHairGal

    HOSER:

    I’m sure you are and were plenty spiritual enough! .. In contrast, the elders you describe sound like hypocritical pharisees. The worst is if they have college but yet condemn it from the podium. They don’t care if they ruin some young person’s life.

    I never begrudged anybody for having money or being able to afford whatever. I never coveted anything anybody had. I worked and supported myself. My problem with them was for knocking me for not pursuing poverty - when intelligent older people there did not.

    I refused to follow in the footsteps of other single women there and I worked full-time…Now, many years later, these women (if they didn’t get married) are on the edge of poverty. If I had listened to the religion and the hypocritical elders I would not be retired!!! I was right all along for sticking to my guns, and there is no forgiveness for what I experienced in the JW religion.

  • ThomasMore
    ThomasMore

    A CO instructed us to discontinue the purse of money that we (as a body of elders) contributed personally to help publishers who legitimately needed financial assistance. I think he thought we would send it to the Branch but we kept records so we gave back to the contributors.

    Over time, it became obvious that WTC did not want us helping those in need. I think it made them look bad because WTC WAS SO TIGHT-FISTED.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    ThomasMore - “…Over time, it became obvious that WTC did not want us helping those in need…”

    From what Barb Anderson has determined, that tendency goes all the way back to Russel.

  • Journeyman
    Journeyman

    This is a clear way in which the Org disregards a key part of Christian life in the 1st century (which they are supposed to have modelled themselves on).

    They've occasionally referred to the "relief ministry", the fact that the early congregations gathered material things to support the poor in their midst - Acts 6:1-6 shows it was not just in times of disaster (eg: famine at Ac 11:28-30 and 2 Corinthians 8-9) but for everyday hardship. In the NWT, Paul calls it a "necessary matter" - so why doesn't the Org encourage and coordinate it? They've never followed that example - quite the reverse.

    Following 'direction' from higher up, local congregations are mostly resistant to supporting needy members officially; they prefer to leave it to individuals to do it informally, and even then, they will counsel them not to get too 'involved' because of the danger of fraud or exploitation (I've seen that, and been on the receiving end of it for assisting others, too). But there would be less danger of any fraud and exploitation if the congregations organised such relief properly in the first place, as the Bible indicates they should.

    Even congregation meals, parties and other 'gatherings' have been increasingly discouraged. Back before the 2000s, they used to be an accepted part of life for many JWs but GB2.0 seem to have done their best to crush even that 'association', which probably helped some poorer members to sometimes enjoy food and company they otherwise wouldn't have had.

    Directing congregation members to state assistance is all very well where it exists and it's legal and possible to get it, but in many countries there is little or none, so what then? Even in countries with a social safety net the eligibility criteria are getting stricter.

    Any chance a JW can ask Warwick HQ how they are spending donations?

    The point about financial transparency at the top of the Org is a good one. Again, if they were really following a Biblical example, contributions were openly accounted for (donations and materials for building Solomon's temple for example - 1 Chronicles 29:1-7). They expect local congregation accounts and assembly overseers to account for every penny and present detailed accounts, but in true "mote-in-the-eye" fashion, fail to apply the principle of transparency to themselves and their vast income and spending.

  • Anony Mous
    Anony Mous

    They do something with the information: they approached people like me, who were more affluent to see if we could assist somehow with particular members, then they would pretend the borg is the one providing.

  • ThomasMore
    ThomasMore

    Vidiot - Barbara is right, but there were relief efforts in the distant past that included limited Watchtower funds. Now there are NONE - NADA - ZILCH. Their tight-fisted approach and obsession with getting all the money of the congs into their accounts is certainly unprecedented. The great money grab over the last 10 years puzzles even members of mainstream Christendom.

    I hear some say they are expecting more KHs to be built..... With what? WTC has all the money that congs saved hoping for a nicer KH. Also any land they bought has been liquidated and the proceeds sent to WTC.

    Now WTC pilots a plan to pay the bills for the cong in non-US countries. I don't think the average publisher understands that this puts WTC in the drivers seat for turning off utilities if the cong falls below expected contribution levels. Personally, I think they will discard the plan as it will result in a decrease in donations as publishers assume thsat WTC is paying - not taking control - and stop contributing. It is a human tendency - just ask the ones who lived under Soviet oppression.

    I can point to more than 10 ways that WTC has spiraled since Russell, and most have occurred in recent years.

  • ExBethelitenowPIMA
    ExBethelitenowPIMA

    On our ministry group’s lately this is the biggest topic the inflation and cost of living crisis.

    the dynamic has changed, most bros and sis walk to the group and for a while wanted a lift to the territory but only a few can just afford cars and fuel

    dame for meetings more people are requesting lifts than there bros able to give them.

    On the group the elder always starts with saying we know how everyone is struggling but we are so well protected following Jesus advice to keep your eye simple. So many times it’s been said lately that the rich people are all so worried about the banking system collapse and we are free of all that because we follow Jesus advice

    when we got to the territory this is the biggest subject now people are struggling

    one typical example of members of the congregation and people we meet in the territory are saying their utilities bills are now in debt by thousands and they are being threatened to be turned off

    its not too bad coming up to summer but what about next winter?

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    The Borg doesn't care if you have to drive 1000miles anywhere in any direction. Just as long as your behind is in those seats and keep on pushing door bells.

  • FedUpJW
    FedUpJW

    The Borg doesn't care if you have to drive 1000miles anywhere in any direction. Just as long as your behind is in those seats and keep on pushing door bells.

    And they mustn't forget to keep pushing those $$$$$ into the "contribution" boxes.

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