Well done Aussie's 60% voted yes. I really did not think this would happen here there is alot of gay phobia. I saw men on the streets holding signs "Vote NO." Well F##k you guys! Im not gay, happily married to my wife and believe in democracy and freedom....the government has no right to push views on us. Awesome lets move forward. (And this will piss off Bethel which is sweet)
Congrats Australia votes yes gay marriage! Awesome!
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slimboyfat
Good result. I'm slightly surprised it wasn't higher in favour, but still strong result. Opinion in the United States and elsewhere is rapidly moved no in favour of gay marriage. Even a majority of Evangelicals and Republicans now support. I wonder what WT will do when opposition to gay marriage is as frowned upon as open racism or sexism.
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smiddy3
122 million dollars$$$$$ of taxpayers money down the drain when the the same result could have been achieved by adding this question in the Census that was conducted just a few months ago and saved 122 million $$$$ of taxpayers money that could have been used for other more important things.
Where are the brains of these politicians we have in parliament today ?Both major parties are to blame .
If you want to be a motor mechanic you have to do a course of schooling x amount of years and apprenticeship before you qualify to be a motor mechanic ,5 years or more.
To be a politician ? no experience necessary and they can enjoy benefits well beyond a motor mechanic`s service of 30- 40 years in the work force ,with only 10 or 15 years in parliament.
I have nothing against gays some of my friends and relations are gay and i have good relations with them but the way this Govt.has approached this issue is surely lacking.
It`s non binding and now the Govt. has to debate it in parliament which is anybody`s guess how that will go.
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slimboyfat
Considering now after the vote even Abbott now supports legislation for gay marriage, my guess is it will pass easily.
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Witness 007
Smitty3 yes waste of money our leaders are idiots just do it!
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zeb
Yes it should have been included in the recent census but was not. That census was a total FU as the details of who you are what you do for a living (army, police, medical?) etc were hacked by a large foreign country because the data system here was so cheap so weak. This same govt ran another census years back and every question related to your income because they were obsessed that ordinary Australians were leaching off social security.
Now everyone get this: The marriage act originally said "two people" but former PM John Howard had it changed to "man and woman". All the feds had to do was change the act back to what it was. Game set and match.!
I believe the whole thing is a massive snow storm to cover some very unpleasant truths that are starting to make themselves apparent. Just one being Australia is sleep walking into a war in Asia... any others? no that will do...
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jwleaks
smiddy3 - Where are the brains of these politicians we have in parliament today?
Smiddy, the irony is these sort of political blunders were made by federal MPs and Senators that had no lawful right to be in office. Section 44 of the Constitution and the High Court have proved this.
Check your PM.
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LoveUniHateExams
Sixty percent voted Yes and what percentage of Aussies is LGBT, maybe 5%?
This shows just how tolerant, open-minded and fair Aussie society is.
Well done - give yourselves a pat on the back.
Generally speaking, we in The West can be proud of our democracy and culture - it's the best in the world. Indeed, Israel stands out like a beacon of human rights, freedoms and fairness surrounded by medieval barbarity.
The West is at the forefront of establishing human rights, including the right of same-sex marriage.
Other nations, societies, tribes and cultures take note.
You, too, can be like us if you make changes and improvements.
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shepherdless
One reason the vote was needed, was that it was an election promise.
However, probably the main reason was the difficulty individual members of Parliament were facing in their own branches. Just to explain, political apathy in Australia makes it easy for small aligned groups to control branches. But the apathy is so prevelant that even small aligned groups are hard to form. In my electorate, there were about 10 branches of the political party holding that federal seat. I saw first hand how a christian alignment got effective control of 8 out of 10 of those branches (ie branch stacking and putting office bearers in place), despite the typical member not being religious. I don’t know for sure, but I suspect that that is a relatively common thing to occur in Aust; Christians being one of the few that can pull together a small but effective aligned group.
Controlling branches means controlling the appointees to the committee that selects and vets potential candidates. Politicians don’t want to be dis-endorsed. When Labor was in power for 6 years, Labor wouldn’t legislate SSM, despite strong community support, control of both houses, and a lot of noise within. Neither would the LNP Coalition more recently, despite even stronger public support.
Now the vote allows the politicians to move forward and introduce SSM, without fear of repercussions. Obviously the survey was a waste of money in one sense, but it probably was the only realistic way forward.
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stuckinarut2
Ah yes. Us Aussies may be slow to get there, but this is one step in the right direction