3 CHANGES THE WATCHTOWER MADE ON BABYLON THE GREAT IN THE LADT 6 MONTHS

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  • raymond frantz
    raymond frantz

    https://youtu.be/VPws6nCQPLA?si=DQNf7-huPFr4PDtA

    For decades, Jehovah’s Witnesses have been banging on about Babylon the Great—the so-called world empire of false religion—being on the brink of collapse. Any day now, they assured us, churches would empty out, priests would be left twiddling their thumbs, and humanity would collectively bin organised religion. And yet… here we are. Churches are still standing, mosques and temples are packed, and religion is still thriving in large swathes of the world.

    So, what do you do when your long-anticipated prophecy isn’t quite unfolding as expected? Well, if you're the Watchtower Society, you simply tweak the narrative. Again. And again.

    At the latest annual meeting, the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses unveiled yet another “adjustment” (their favourite euphemism for backtracking). This time, it’s all about Babylon the Great, and it’s a pretty big U-turn. Let’s break it down into three key changes.

    Change 1: Babylon the Great Is *Not* Actually Falling (At Least, Not Yet)

    For years, Jehovah’s Witnesses confidently declared that Babylon the Great was in a terminal decline. Europe’s churches were emptier than a pub on Christmas morning, faith was supposedly on the way out, and this was solid proof that Jehovah was dismantling false religion in preparation for the Great Tribulation.

    Except, as it turns out, religion isn’t exactly gasping its last breath worldwide. While Europe might be swapping Sunday service for Sunday brunch, Africa, South America, and large parts of Asia are still very much devoted to their faiths. Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism are still experiencing growth in many regions, and Jehovah’s Witnesses have been forced to acknowledge this inconvenient reality.

    So, rather than admit their prediction was a bit premature, they’ve decided that, actually, Babylon the Great is *gradually* losing support, but it's not quite at the collapsing stage yet. The waters, they now say, are only *drying up* rather than disappearing entirely. Ah, yes—the classic "technically, we weren’t *wrong*” manoeuvre.

    Change 2: The Great Tribulation No Longer Starts with Babylon’s Fall

    Here’s another one they’ve quietly reshuffled. For decades, Witnesses were taught that the Great Tribulation—the beginning of the end of the world—would be triggered by governments suddenly turning on religion and wiping out all false faiths. Babylon the Great would be obliterated, and Jehovah’s Witnesses, as the only true faith, would emerge untouched, finally getting their *I told you so* moment.

    Well, not anymore. According to the latest interpretation, the Great Tribulation actually starts with something quite different: nations handing over their power to the United Nations. Yes, the very same UN that Jehovah’s Witnesses have been demonising for decades as part of Satan’s world order is now, apparently, fulfilling God’s plan.

    This shift is significant. Instead of expecting an immediate, dramatic collapse of religion, Witnesses are now being told to look for political changes instead. It’s a convenient way to move the goalposts—rather than having to explain why Babylon the Great is still alive and well, they can now focus on political shifts that may or may not happen in the near future.

    Essentially, they've gone from “Religion is about to be wiped out” to “Actually, let’s keep an eye on the UN instead.” And, conveniently, this new timeline keeps the sense of urgency alive without requiring them to acknowledge that their previous predictions didn’t quite pan out.

    Change 3: A Softer Stance Towards Other Religions

    Perhaps the most surprising shift of all is the *tone* of this new understanding. Historically, Jehovah’s Witnesses have had no qualms about calling other religions part of a corrupt, satanic system destined for destruction. They proudly distanced themselves from *Christendom*, rejected interfaith cooperation, and made it clear that all other faiths were doomed.

    But now? The message is getting noticeably softer. Rather than talking about the imminent destruction of all other religions, they’re subtly shifting the focus towards political changes. Could this be a strategic move to appear more respectable and mainstream? It certainly seems that way.

    Let’s not forget that Jehovah’s Witnesses operate as registered charities in countries like the UK and Australia. If they go around gleefully predicting the downfall of every other religion, it doesn’t exactly help their reputation when governments review their charitable status. By softening their stance, they can present themselves as a peaceful, law-abiding group rather than a fringe movement obsessed with Armageddon.

    This shift could also make life easier for Witnesses in countries where they’re viewed with suspicion. France, Spain, and Norway, for instance, have taken a harder stance against what they consider to be extreme religious groups. If the Watchtower wants to maintain influence in these regions, appearing less antagonistic towards other faiths is a smart move.

    And let’s be honest—publicly rooting for the collapse of all other religions while simultaneously claiming tax-exempt charity status was always going to be a tough sell.

    The Big Picture: A Strategic Survival Move?

    So, what’s really going on here? Is this another case of “new light” (aka “Oops, we need to rethink that one”), or is there something more strategic at play?

    One thing is certain: the Watchtower is losing members. Their growth has slowed dramatically, Kingdom Halls are being sold, and internal reports suggest they’re struggling to retain young people. If you’re an organisation watching your influence wane, you have two choices: double down on the old narrative or pivot to something more sustainable.

    By shifting away from the “Babylon is about to collapse” rhetoric and focusing on the UN, they buy themselves time. If churches are still standing strong in 10 years, no problem—they can just say the political scene hasn’t quite aligned yet.

    At the same time, toning down their hostility towards other religions makes them more palatable as a charity and reduces their risk of being classified as an extremist group. It’s a classic PR move: soften the message, stay relevant, and ensure the money keeps flowing.

    Final Thought: Who’s Actually in Decline Here?

    For decades, Jehovah’s Witnesses have warned the world that religion is on the verge of collapse. But if you look at the numbers, it’s actually the *Watchtower* that seems to be in trouble. Their once-unquestioned authority is being challenged, their membership is stagnating, and now they’re having to reframe their prophecies to keep their followers engaged.

    So, maybe Babylon the Great *isn’t* the one falling after all. Maybe it’s the Watchtower. And in this religious survival game, they seem to have realised that playing nice might just be their best chance at staying afloat.

    Not quite the grand Armageddon they promised, is it?

  • Duran
    Duran
    Change 2: The Great Tribulation No Longer Starts with Babylon’s Fall
    According to the latest interpretation, the Great Tribulation actually starts with something quite different: nations handing over their power to the United Nations.

    Actually, what they have recently said is correct.

    They have claimed that the nations/UN turn on BTG. They said that as though just out of the blue this would happen. Now they are saying that first before the nations/UN can turn on BTG, the nations will give their power to the UN and then when empowered they will turn on BTG.

    As I said, they are now correct in what they are saying. But what they fail to speak about is what would lead to the nations given their power to the UN. That event has to come first, then as a result they give their power and then as a result they together turn on BTG.

    [ 13 These have one thought, so they give their power and authority to the wild beast. 16 And the ten horns that you saw and the wild beast, these will hate the prostitute and will make her devastated and naked, and they will eat up her flesh and completely burn her with fire. 17 For God put it into their hearts to carry out his thought, yes, to carry out their one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished.]

  • careful
    careful

    Supposedly figuring out biblical prophecy ahead of time? YAWN.

  • blondie
    blondie

    WT May 2022 p. 16 "As mentioned in the preceding article, the political elements of this world will soon turn on Babylon the Great, the world empire of false religion. This action will mark the beginning of the great tribulation."

  • Duran
    Duran

    Yes, that 2022 WT was an example of them just claiming that they were just going to turn on BTG. Now in the Oct 2024 annually meeting, Jackson added that before they turn on BTG, first the UN/beast has to be given the power first from the 10 kings.

    40:00 - 43:20

    2024 Jehovah's Witnesses Annual Meeting: Everything You Need To Know - YouTube

    What he did not say though is what is going to cause the nations to give their authority to the UN. Just like they made it seem that out of the blue the UN and nations were going to turn on BTG, now even though they updated the given of the power first, they now still make it seem like out of the blue they will just give their power over.

    My thinking is the only thing that would cause the nations to give their power to the UN is WW3.

    The UN already warns about the need for this now...

    WW3 / [United Nations: Guterres warns ‘we are on the edge of an abyss
    The UN’s chief painted a grim picture of a divided and polarized world and urged solidarity among nations.The world has never been more threatened or more divided, United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres told nations of the world on Tuesday as he kicked off the 76th General Assembly session, urging all 193 member states to “wake up” and realize that solidarity is the only way out of disaster.]

    But they won't do it until after/during WW3 actually takes place. Then they will give their power over and that will be the time of the GT for 42 months.

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