Why the need for 144000 imperfect humans to Rule with Christ Jesus for 1000 years ? Is he incapable of ruling by himself ?

by smiddy 45 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Drearyweather

  l asked this question to my JW friend, and here is his reply:

  JW's don't believe that the 144,000 are called because Christ requires "help" or "need" to reign over earth. Jesus was a master worker with Jehovah, however it was not because Jehovah was incapable of creating and thus required Jesus help.

  No where do our publications state that the the heavenly calling is due to Christ's incapability as a ruler.

  The 144,000 are called due to God's mercy, undeserved kindness and it was God's purpose that obedient human beings from earth who are declared righteous be given the opportunity to share in the Kingdom Rule.

  2 Tim 1:9 :

  He saved us and called us with a holy calling, not because of our works, but because of his own purpose and undeserved kindness. This was given to us in connection with Christ Jesus before times long ago.

  1 Peter 1:3:

  Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for according to his great mercy he gave us a new birth to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
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  Drearyweather

  Revelation 5:9,10 does say "on the earth".

  But there are other scriptures that suggests it would be from heaven:

  Rev 3:21: New International Version

  To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne.

  Matthew 19:28
  Jesus said to them, "Truly I tell you, in the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on His glorious throne, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

  Luke 22:30:

  New International Version
  so that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom and sit on thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
  
  
  
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  anointed1

  Drearyweather says:

  “No where do our publications state that the heavenly calling is due to Christ's incapability as a ruler.”

  Yet the idea is hinted at when WT publications say stuff like this: Jehovah could have given angels as co-kings and co-priests along with Jesus, but He extended this privilege to humans because they are the one who are tried with Jesus on earth who gave a fitting reply to Satan’s taunt.
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  Drearyweather

  anointed1, you said

  "Jehovah could have given angels as co-kings and co-priests along with Jesus, but He extended this privilege to humans because they are the one who are tried with Jesus on earth who gave a fitting reply to Satan’s taunt."

  This comparison is between angels and humans. According to this statement, it indicates the incapability of the angels (not Christ) to serve as rulers, hence humans were chosen.
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  anointed1

  Dearyweather, Let it be "comparison between angels and humans."

  Yet the implied truth is that God and Jesus need help from "experienced humans" which actually dishonor them.
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  truth_b_known

  My father, who claims to be of the annointed, told me that the reason for taking 144,000 humans and making them rulers over the earth is nothing more than tea-bagging Satan. Satan, an angel, wanted that. So it's just a big "eff you" to Satan from Jehovah.
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  Finkelstein

  But doesn't Satan have his own army such as his wicked evil forces ?.
  

  The ancients thought god had associated angels or lower serving spirits due to observing the abundance of stars in the sky at night.
  
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  Spoletta

  Jesus needs Anthony Morris's insight on dealing with tight pants and pedophile homosexuals.
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  RubaDub

  If you have a bad day or week, it's great to have a backup team in place to take over the workload while you are out.

  Rub a Dub
  
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  waton

  Jesus will need help from the current anointed male virgins to grasp the concept of overlapping group generations that ends before the end.