Sin came into the world - not true?

by menrov 32 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • menrov
    menrov

    Matt 5:27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to desire her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

    This means that even before someone commits an act that is considered a sin or wrong but does think about it, that person actually already committed that sin or trespassing.

    Now read this:

    Rom. 5:12 So then, just as sin entered the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all people because all sinned— 13 for before the law was given, sin was in the world, but there is no accounting for sin when there is no law.

    This means that there was already sin in the world before Adam and Eve actually ate the fruit. Because:

    Gen. 3:6 When the woman saw that the tree produced fruit that was good for food, was attractive to the eye, and was desirable for making one wise, she took some of its fruit and ate it. She also gave some of it to her husband who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them opened, and they knew they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.

    So, Eve had a desire to eat which was not allowed. So, she already committed the sin even before she ate. Adam followed to eat. As such, we can only conclude that Adam and Eve were created with sin. As they had no human parents, they could not blame the genes or DNA from their parents. In other words, based on the scriptures about the acts of Adam and Eve, the only conclusion is that Adam nor Eve were without sin before they actually committed the sin or trespassing.

    As a side point, it seems the fruit was under a spell. Gen. 3:7 Then the eyes of both of them opened, and they knew they were naked; ...

    This means that the bite(s) from the fruit instantly generated a change in their heads. Like magic. You might wonder, what chance did either Eve or Adam have to withstand the look of the fruit.



  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    A totally mythical story, and obviously allegorical, does not merit such analysis as you subject it to, and you cannot sensibly look to it for guidance or illumination on matters like the subject of "Sin".

    I appreciate the thought you have put in to your Post, but would suggest you study the evolution of the idea of Original Sin, and the matter of whether Sin exists in reality.

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    Please! No more talking snakes & miracle fruit trees.

  • truth_b_known
    truth_b_known

    Both the Hebrew and Greek words for "sin" are archery terms that mean "to miss the mark." In Hebrew it literally meant "to miss the golden center of the target." Cravings and desires cause one to take their eye off the target, as it were, and miss.

    Yes, the creation account, Adam, Eve, and the original sin are allegoric stories used to explain things by the Israelites. Being concerned with whether or not it happened is missing the point. That is like seeing some one use their finger to point to a beautiful full moon on a dark night and focus on the person's finger.

  • pistolpete
    pistolpete

    In one of Bart Ehrman books, he mentions that it is very likely that many of the New Testament books, were written by people who never personally met Jesus. For example Paul never actually met Jesus, never hung around Jesus or was around during his lectures. So the sayings about sin in the book of Romans were probably conjured up and written by people who had no idea what Jesus actually taught.

    Imagine if Jesus was resurrected today, he would probably be totally surprise and astonished that he was deified as God's son, or God himself after his death. The evidence seems to indicate that Jesus was actually preaching damaging rhetoric against the Roman empire, which is why the Romans crucified him as a sedition-est Which is why Pilate asked him; ARE YOU THE KING OF THE JEWS?.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    It seems to be a sin to do what is natural, which is why it is so hard to avoid it. And then they blame us for it--requiring us to constantly fight against nature. This weakens us, which allows the reptilians to more easily have us all enslaved and take our planet as their own. Hence, anything that does us any good becomes a sin against joke-hova for making extra work for that thing to ruin us.

  • JoenB75
    JoenB75

    Menrow, Adam and Eve is best understood to be representatives of mankind in covenant with God and experiencing the consequences of their sinful=errorbound ways through their actions and judgments of God. Adam and Eve had no idea what they were doing when they sinned but they surely learned

  • JoenB75
    JoenB75

    Pistolpete, it is politically incorrect to say so today, but the great enemy of Jesus and the early Church in the time the new testament stories take place were the Jews. Then with Nero, the Romans gradually took over the persecution, Hadrian finally destroying jewish power in the ancient world

  • waton
    waton

    The key word is adultery, which specifies that either the looker or the target that the look is locked on is married, an arrangement to produce and rear stable offspring., a stable society.

    It makes the same activity legit, kind off, among scanning singles.

    imagine modern day "Eli's sons" scanning the offerings at the hall, the assemblies, the zoom gallery.

  • Overrated
    Overrated

    Sin = Human Behavior. I think it's all human Behavior. Bad and Good. Sin in the Bible is a load of crap!

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