Shunning--newest directive

stan livedeath

so just what is the latest directive on shunning?

asking for a family member

""Disfellowshipping"". They called it scriptural. But it's nowhere found in the bible. "" That word ""disfellowship"" has been removed from JWBORG's vocabulary in light of what happened in Norway recently.

They now substituted that former term with ""removed".

With all the subsequent practices of borg theology of ostracizing.

"Disfellowshipped" given a paint job in a way. Replaced with "removed".

road to nowhere

Not paint; whitewashed.

There are people who danger others either physically or mentally but the guidelines for avoiding them are illogical and enforced haphazard by ynvetted men.

Shunning is and was blackmail.

stan livedeath

but has the cult relaxed the rules recently?

Beth Sarim

Relaxed rules toward "" shunning"" policies and ostracizing those who dont believe anymore or those who no longer abide by Borg theology or principles???

NO.

Just called a different term for some government(s).

Every Dub knows that ""removal" comes with the same subsequent practices of being shunned & ostracized. The public/ governments aren't fully educated on this . But,,, they think that scrapping the disfellowshipping arrangement is agreeable.

St George of England

but has the cult relaxed the rules recently?

Yes. A D/Fed person can be reinstated without having to wait for 6 months or whatever. They can be used as soon as they are back. We recently had a guy reinstated at the mid-week meeting and he was answering on the following Sunday. Within a couple of weeks he was on platform mic duties and roving mics.

Anyone who's conscience allows it can phone a D/Fed person and invite them to a meeting and people can greet them.

All this was spelled out in the re-written August 2024 Study WT but I'm sure you have better things to do in life than wade through all that, Stan!

George

Beth Sarim

St George thanks for clarifying.

Removal still = ostracizing(shunning)

Jehalapeno

but has the cult relaxed the rules recently?

Depends on your individual situation. I’m neither disfellowshipped or disassociated, but I was a known and active apostate for a time so I was being shunned by all my former friends and shunned by family.

However, after the changes in March of last year, my father reached out to me to extend an olive branch. Of course he wants me to come back to the organization, but I made it clear I just don’t believe it anymore. However I was very respectful of his beliefs and said I thought some of the recent changes were steps in the right direction.

After that conversation, we continued to talk weekly, I visited them in person for a week a few months ago, and next week I’m seeing them again.

The major on paper change is that you can greet and talk to disfellowshipped people at the Kingdom Hall now. However they still discourage unnecessary association outside of the hall.

Active Apostates are still considered persona non grata.

Interestingly, my father told me he doesn’t consider me an apostate anymore because I’m no longer actively opposing the organization. By the definition of the word, yes I’m an apostate. However, he, an elder of 40+ years, says that the organization considers someone apostate if they’re an opposer, not just someone that no longer believes.

DesirousOfChange

However, he, an elder of 40+ years, says that the organization considers someone apostate if they’re an opposer, not just someone that no longer believes.

If that's an "official" adjustment, that is pretty significant. Sounds like it could just be HIS spin on it all. I think there are lots of JWs, including many elders like him, who are far more liberal in their thinking than are the GB/Leaders.

Sea Breeze

Active Apostates are still considered persona non grata.

What this means is that, anyone who believes they can be saved by the blood of Jesus alone, they will still be viewed as a filthy Babylonish Whore and avoided all costs.

So, if you come to Jesus as he invited, talk to him like he instructed, and accept his deal for peace with God in the new covenant, you will never see your family again, your name will be permanently smeared and you can forget about any family inheritance. You may not even be notified if your mother gets sick and is put in Hospice to die (like what happened to me). When I asked my father in person, "Where is mom?. He said her ashes were in the backyard lawnmower shed.

But, if an XJW is willing to continue their rebellion against the authority of Jesus after they leave, you will now be thrown an emotional bone now and then..... a few scraps from the family table.

Shunning--newest directive

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