"Keith It is with Great Sadness that I write this Note!"

by The Bethelite 30 Replies latest jw friends

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  blondie

  I thought the WTS puts for the number as 20 billion.

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200003709?q=20+billion&p=sen
  

  Resurrection During 1,000 Years. The exact number of humans who have ever lived is unknown to humans. However, by way of illustration, if Jehovah resurrects 20 billion(20,000,000,000) people, there would be no problem as to living space and food for them. The land surface of the earth at present is about 148,000,000 sq km (57,000,000 sq mi), or about 14,800,000,000 ha (36,500,000,000 acres). Even allowing half of that to be set aside for other uses, there would be more than a third of a hectare (almost 1 acre) for each person. As to earth’s potential food production, a third of a hectare will actually provide much more than enough food for one person, especially when, as God has demonstrated in the case of the nation of Israel, there is abundance of food as a result of God’s blessing.​—1Ki 4:20; Eze 34:27.
  
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  Half banana

  Like with everything thing else Blondie , the Watchtower was wrong. A recent serious attempt at arriving at the total number of humans who have ever lived is something like 110,000,000,000-- one hundred and ten billion. I guess this is just for Homo sapiens but since humans evolved we were breeding with Neanderthals and Denisovans (amongst others) during our 300,000 year history. So should we not include those other members of our genus (Homo) as well since we are their offspring?

  A proper evaluation of what humanity is makes nonsense of the Biblical claims and demonstrates that the Bible was simply myth told in the absence of a scientific understanding of life.

  The idea of cheating death is an understandable wish and is the reason for the presence of religion in most human cultures. But which is the more absurd: never dying or resurrecting billions and billions of the dead?
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  blondie

  Half banana, not only was the WTS wrong but obviously pulled the number out of their a**.

  Even as a young person at the meetings (not yet baptized) I wondered where they got this idea, not from scientific sources. But they couch their statement in weasel words as they always do giving them space to back out of their statement.
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  iwantoutnow

  Beth Sarim - yup your right - it is 100 Billion.

  Thanks:)
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  iwantoutnow

  Blondie - yes the WT put it at 20 bill, but have used that number since from many decades ago.

  Notice they don't cite the source right?

  All modern estimates put it at 100 billion.

  Now why would the WT not update that number?
  

  Because almost any moron would know that the earth cant sustain 100 billion people, and then there would be a cascade of questions and dominos.
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  blondie

  iwantout now, that is a typical trick by the WTS, not to note the source, "some researcher" "some say" etc. The average jw will not check it out, it would be like checking god's statistics.
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  Half banana

  And Keith your friend is one of those who live their deluded lives deep inside the JW bubble, smug in his his convictions and immunised against reality-- and likely he always will be. Sad isn't it?.

  Friendship among JWs is usually conditional and outside of the congregation, in nearly all other situations, the tie of friendship is second only to family ties.
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  iwantoutnow

  blondie - I know they have been using that figure at least since the 60's.

  No one uses that now. It's like putting out an Awake article out now, saying Jupiter has 12 moons.

  This really was a key to me waking up. I gave many District Convention talks, and because I really wanted to give the best talk possible, I researched all the references. Time and time again, I found they were distorting the message or the information the quote or reference came from. It happened enough for me to realize, they were doing this on purpose, and who ever was writing them knew exactly what they were doing.

  By the way - the argument they use for 20 billion being OK on the earth is also false and dishonest. Correlating land per person, has nothing to do with the resources needed to sustain a massive population. It doesn't consider the other 1000 factors involved. I dont know why they just dont fall back on "jehober will provide".
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  Vanderhoven7

  @Bethelite

  What is the name of your book?
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  Vidiot

  Sometimes I actually wish there was a freaky-ass parallel universe where all the WTS's wishes came true, and that all JWs everywhere were magically transported to it, just so they'd see how fucked-up living in it would actually be.